Brekkie post_id=30853 time= user_id=976 Wrote:It seems to have found it's level. I imagine it'll pick up come September but so will the BBC and Sky.
I guess it isn't so much a question of whether it is profitable but whether it's owners will be comfortable with it's losses, as Sky have long been. I still think a sale is the most likely outcome and News UK would surely be favourite.
Going by News UK's own estimates, they'd lose £40m per annum if they were to launch a GB News style channel.
Brekkie post_id=30853 time= user_id=976 Wrote:It seems to have found it's level.
If that's its level, they'll be losing money by the bucketload.
It’ll be gone by December. Farage and co were the nuclear option. The fact they’ve already lurched in that direction does not bode well. There is nothing left for them. We’ll see a few more studio tweaks and a few more signings. All will be on six month contracts. To those in the back row saying ‘wait til September’, I’d advise against any further optimism at this stage. The project has been a disaster.
globaltraffic24 post_id=30901 time= user_id=1708 Wrote:It’ll be gone by December. Farage and co were the nuclear option. The fact they’ve already lurched in that direction does not bode well. There is nothing left for them. We’ll see a few more studio tweaks and a few more signings. All will be on six month contracts. To those in the back row saying ‘wait til September’, I’d advise against any further optimism at this stage. The project has been a disaster.
Way too early to be making this kind of call. Even the ITN/ITV News Channel lasted 5 years and dare I suggest that neither version was really given long enough to bed in with the audience. Even as someone who doesn’t really like a lot of what GB News is currently doing, I would suggest patience and not making predictions yet about when the plug is going to be pulled. Even Sun News Network in Canada lasted a few years before the plug was pulled.
Its gone from trying to give the façade of being a news channel, to anything to get views. You cant build an entire channel by causing trouble and stirring it. Look where it got the News of the Screws. Another hefty pay out today I see.
I managed to watch a few minutes of Mike Graham's talkRADIO show this morning, and from his opening remarks, it appeared he took a slight dig at GB News when he was promoting talkRADIO tv app, by saying:
"Start watching us in full glorious HD, proper cameras, proper colour, proper noise, and proper vision. That's what we do. Nobody else does it quite as well "
Now, that has to be a little dig at GB News.
The camera quality from Alex's phone is better than the studio cameras.
globaltraffic24 post_id=30901 time= user_id=1708 Wrote:It’ll be gone by December. Farage and co were the nuclear option. The fact they’ve already lurched in that direction does not bode well. There is nothing left for them. We’ll see a few more studio tweaks and a few more signings. All will be on six month contracts. To those in the back row saying ‘wait til September’, I’d advise against any further optimism at this stage. The project has been a disaster.
I think this may be too early a call but i think you're right about the direction of travel.
From a politics point of view, I should like the output - it's socially liberal and quite libertarian but against the excesses of both sides. There has been nothing transmitted so far that I have seen which approaches being racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.
I know some trans activists will disagree with some of the output and I respect that but it's an opinion I don't share.
But it's just boring. Say what you like about Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and the like but they are much slicker and much easier to watch.
I, like many on here, was excited about its launch but I find myself barely tuning in now except for a bit of Farage (he's a very good presenter) and Brazier. I wasn't hugely taken by Mark Dolan on the channel (although he seems a good bloke) and, while Dan Wooton has grown on me slightly as his style has got less hysterical and "Celebrity Sam", I'd rather watch a bit of iPlayer or YouTube, quite frankly.
I don't view Farage as the nuclear option or indicative of a lurch in a particular direction. Many of his opinions are shared by tens of millions of people in the UK but I think that's also true of most of the other presenters.
johnnyboy post_id=31008 time= user_id=925 Wrote:globaltraffic24 post_id=30901 time= user_id=1708 Wrote:It’ll be gone by December. Farage and co were the nuclear option. The fact they’ve already lurched in that direction does not bode well. There is nothing left for them. We’ll see a few more studio tweaks and a few more signings. All will be on six month contracts. To those in the back row saying ‘wait til September’, I’d advise against any further optimism at this stage. The project has been a disaster.
I think this may be too early a call but i think you're right about the direction of travel.
From a politics point of view, I should like the output - it's socially liberal and quite libertarian but against the excesses of both sides. There has been nothing transmitted so far that I have seen which approaches being racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.
I know some trans activists will disagree with some of the output and I respect that but it's an opinion I don't share.
But it's just boring. Say what you like about Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and the like but they are much slicker and much easier to watch.
I, like many on here, was excited about its launch but I find myself barely tuning in now except for a bit of Farage (he's a very good presenter) and Brazier. I wasn't hugely taken by Mark Dolan on the channel (although he seems a good bloke) and, while Dan Wooton has grown on me slightly as his style has got less hysterical and "Celebrity Sam", I'd rather watch a bit of iPlayer or YouTube, quite frankly.
I don't view Farage as the nuclear option or indicative of a lurch in a particular direction. Many of his opinions are shared by tens of millions of people in the UK but I think that's also true of most of the other presenters.
You’ve hit the nail on the head. It’s boring. Once the novelty of the technical issues subsides, it just feels hollow and every host gives the impression they’re padding. I tuned in last night to Dan’s show. The interaction with the panel was actually quite relaxed and fun, but within minutes he was then promoting an upcoming hatchet job story about Scottish politics. I sighed and switched off. THIS is the problem the channel faces even if it gets the other issues fixed. There is no one single political viewpoint here in the UK. In the US, voters tend to be all-in on one side or another. British public and most Europeans tend to be far more nuanced, so you’re always going to alienate and push your target audience away at some point. We witnessed that in the early days with the channel. It stuck to one or two issues and made it clear who it was targeting, but the issues can be so basic that people get bored. In short, they have two options - go on like a stuck record about single issue politics and bore the audience away, or cover a wide range of topics and annoy away the audience. For that reason, it simply can’t work.
On Mark Dolan, I worked with him years ago. He always struck me as quite liberal and even a little left wing. He covered shows on LBC and was very much in the urban London comedian/liberal camp. The fact his style has changed so much suggests what a previous poster much earlier in this thread said is correct. Much of what we’re seeing on-screen from many of the hosts is simply performative. We were led to believe they were being ‘unleashed’. They were not. They’re simply putting on a watered down populist, reactionary act.
The channel was never going to reflect my views. I’m a centrist and the endless ‘war on woke’ on one side and revolutionary politicking on the other is frankly exhausting, but I was still happy for them to give it a go. More media is always a good thing for the industry. They flunked it. I’m counting down to the next departure. My guess is the Scotland reporter will be off soon, closely followed by Nana Akua, Kirsty Gallacher, Rosie Wright and Mercy Muroki.