Stuart post_id=15535 time=1622348362 user_id=875 Wrote:Piers mentioned a drop in viewing figures, but have they really fallen that much since his departure?
Good Morning Britain has been averaging in the ballpark of about 600k -700k (about 18 - 21% share) in recent weeks, including this last week with Bill Turnbull, whereas it was averaging anything between 700k to above 900k (roughly 23 - 30% share) when Morgan was there. Worth pointing out that it was only creeping above 1m when the Harry and Meghan stuff was exploding, and the only day it beat BBC Breakfast (by 40k and 3% share) was the day Morgan walked off set - so him making out that the show was beating BBC Breakfast on his watch is rather disingenuous. He helped it to narrow the gap, but that is pretty much it.
Otherwise, it's been business as usual with BBC Breakfast comfortably ahead in the average figures of around 1.3 - 1.5m and shares very often above 40%.
Who knows though? At this rate, itv will probably allow Morgan to return and hype it up to the point that we could truly see the end of BBC Breakfast's dominance.
steely12 post_id=15539 time=1622358752 user_id=1199 Wrote:to the point that we could truly see the end of BBC Breakfast's dominance.
Please don't turn into the new Custard56
I would say the ratings loss has been quite significant, however things are still nowhere near as bad (in terms of ratings) as they were before Piers joined the show in 2015 (around 560k on average). That being said, I do think that they ought to find a new, permanent presenter before September, otherwise it will just look like the show is struggling to move on.
When it comes to audience shares it's probably worth noting that for most of the past year a lot more people have been working from home (and home schooling). This means they're able to watch GMB and Breakfast for longer, due to not having to commute.
Piers' departure came just as people were starting to return to working in the office, which will have resulted in viewers having to switch off earlier. Also I get the impression he prefers to focus on the ratings from his last couple days, rather than the average of his last few months.
I wouldn't rule out him returning to ITV via another programme, however I can't see him returning to GMB in the near future. (Assuming Trinity Mirror don't drop any bombshells regarding Piers' time as editor.) That won't stop him from creating publicity for himself with rumours of a return, thereby keeping him in the public eye/mind.
As a format I find GMB much more dynamic and engaging than BBC Breakfast. Especially with Alistair Campbell's recent stint, it genuinely felt like an intelligent, modern piece of TV with great production values.
Even with the things that don't land, at least they are trying to DO something. I know it rates higher but to me BBC Breakfast feels like a bit of a relic.
Whatever your view is on the Government's handling of the pandemic (and whatever your view is on the Government in general), I think we can all agree the Piers went too Hard on the Government and he was way too Out of Order
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...54273.html
Quote:Piers Morgan apologises for not going ‘much harder’ on government over coronavirus response
Former GMB host says Dominic Cummings’ testimony ‘exposes a terrifying level of incompetence and deceit led by Boris Johnson’
Piers Morgan has apologised for the way he held the government to account during the coronavirus pandemic, saying he “should have gone much much harder”.
The former Good Morning Britain host made the remarks as Dominic Cummings described the chaos in Downing Street in the days leading up to the first lockdown.
HarveyB post_id=15699 time=1622471315 user_id=1365 Wrote:Whatever your view is on the Government's handling of the pandemic (and whatever your view is on the Government in general), I think we can all agree the Piers went too Hard on the Government and he was way too Out of Order
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...54273.html
Quote:Piers Morgan apologises for not going ‘much harder’ on government over coronavirus response
Former GMB host says Dominic Cummings’ testimony ‘exposes a terrifying level of incompetence and deceit led by Boris Johnson’
Piers Morgan has apologised for the way he held the government to account during the coronavirus pandemic, saying he “should have gone much much harder”.
The former Good Morning Britain host made the remarks as Dominic Cummings described the chaos in Downing Street in the days leading up to the first lockdown.
Don't think you can make that assumption for ANY of us.
Without delving into politics, and simply to illustrate my above point... being left on the frontline with vague and ever changing advice, whilst having massive contradictions on guidance, got on my wick quite a bit. But you know, thanks for clapping for us every Thursday...
HarveyB post_id=15699 time=1622471315 user_id=1365 Wrote:I think we can all agree the Piers went too Hard on the Government and he was way too Out of Order
Absolutely not. Without wishing to get into politics (this isn’t a reflection of my political views but of my views on how interviewers should act and question), whilst his style of doing it bugged me at times he got to the heart of the issues and pressed the Govt hard on any mistakes they made - that is exactly what’s needed in a time of national crisis - the Government (and indeed opposition) being held to account by journalists is of absolute paramount importance, and Piers did this well.
I am looking forward to seeing what GB News Great British Breakfast will be like, and will it make any dent into the ratings of GMB or BBC Breakfast.
When Fox News used to be on Sky, I used to enjoy watching Fox and Friends, their three host breakfast programme. During the time I used to dip in to it, would have been in the pre-Trump presidency era, it was always worth a laugh, just at how unbalanced and unfair they were.
GB News could make some use of this format to try and give an alternative to GMB.
TVViewer256 post_id=15703 time=1622471889 user_id=1039 Wrote:HarveyB post_id=15699 time=1622471315 user_id=1365 Wrote:I think we can all agree the Piers went too Hard on the Government and he was way too Out of Order
Absolutely not. Without wishing to get into politics (this isn’t a reflection of my political views but of my views on how interviewers should act and question), whilst his style of doing it bugged me at times he got to the heart of the issues and pressed the Govt hard on any mistakes they made - that is exactly what’s needed in a time of national crisis - the Government (and indeed opposition) being held to account by journalists is of absolute paramount importance, and Piers did this well.
I politely disagree. In My Opinion, the way he did it came across like he was bullying
DanielK post_id=15702 time=1622471734 user_id=1019 Wrote:HarveyB post_id=15699 time=1622471315 user_id=1365 Wrote:Whatever your view is on the Government's handling of the pandemic (and whatever your view is on the Government in general), I think we can all agree the Piers went too Hard on the Government and he was way too Out of Order
Don't think you can make that assumption for ANY of us.
Without delving into politics, and simply to illustrate my above point... being left on the frontline with vague and ever changing advice, whilst having massive contradictions on guidance, got on my wick quite a bit. But you know, thanks for clapping for us every Thursday...
In My Opinion, he still came across as rude during interviews and kept interrupting them and shouting them down (and this goes for everyone who was a guest on GMB unless they were a Celebrity promoting a new show or album, etc).
As a contrast, Adil Ray shouts at Government Ministers but he does it in a way where it doesn't come across as Rude or Bullying
HarveyB post_id=15718 time=1622480038 user_id=1365 Wrote:DanielK post_id=15702 time=1622471734 user_id=1019 Wrote:HarveyB post_id=15699 time=1622471315 user_id=1365 Wrote:Whatever your view is on the Government's handling of the pandemic (and whatever your view is on the Government in general), I think we can all agree the Piers went too Hard on the Government and he was way too Out of Order
Don't think you can make that assumption for ANY of us.
Without delving into politics, and simply to illustrate my above point... being left on the frontline with vague and ever changing advice, whilst having massive contradictions on guidance, got on my wick quite a bit. But you know, thanks for clapping for us every Thursday...
In My Opinion, he still came across as rude during interviews and kept interrupting them and shouting them down (and this goes for everyone who was a guest on GMB unless they were a Celebrity promoting a new show or album, etc).
As a contrast, Adil Ray shouts at Government Ministers but he does it in a way where it doesn't come across as Rude or Bullying
I think you'll find that many on the frontline would like to do more than PM did in his interviews. Post watershed language style.
HarveyB post_id=15716 time=1622479376 user_id=1365 Wrote:TVViewer256 post_id=15703 time=1622471889 user_id=1039 Wrote:HarveyB post_id=15699 time=1622471315 user_id=1365 Wrote:I think we can all agree the Piers went too Hard on the Government and he was way too Out of Order
Absolutely not. Without wishing to get into politics (this isn’t a reflection of my political views but of my views on how interviewers should act and question), whilst his style of doing it bugged me at times he got to the heart of the issues and pressed the Govt hard on any mistakes they made - that is exactly what’s needed in a time of national crisis - the Government (and indeed opposition) being held to account by journalists is of absolute paramount importance, and Piers did this well.
I politely disagree. In My Opinion, the way he did it came across like he was bullying
Holding government ministers to account is not bullying, just as refusing to be interviewed by journalists who will hold you to account is not being accountable.
Brekkie post_id=15721 time=1622481439 user_id=976 Wrote:HarveyB post_id=15716 time=1622479376 user_id=1365 Wrote:TVViewer256 post_id=15703 time=1622471889 user_id=1039 Wrote:Absolutely not. Without wishing to get into politics (this isn’t a reflection of my political views but of my views on how interviewers should act and question), whilst his style of doing it bugged me at times he got to the heart of the issues and pressed the Govt hard on any mistakes they made - that is exactly what’s needed in a time of national crisis - the Government (and indeed opposition) being held to account by journalists is of absolute paramount importance, and Piers did this well.
I politely disagree. In My Opinion, the way he did it came across like he was bullying
Holding government ministers to account is not bullying, just as refusing to be interviewed by journalists who will hold you to account is not being accountable.
But shouting them down after 2 or 3 words and using a rude voice tone (which is What I would describe Morgans interviewing style as) is what I would consider as bullying
Irrelevant now - he left 12 weeks ago.