As far as I'm aware Suspilne, the Ukrainian public broadcaster, is not financially supporting the contest - so it is up to the BBC to find the money.
It will be a BBC Studios/EBU event, so there will be sponsors almost certainly who just don't appear on the BBC broadcast. If the host city is chosen purely on the idea of how much the BBC may or may not have to pay to host, I reckon Glasgow's got the best chance, with the Scottish Government probably eager to financially back a Glasgow hosting in a way that potentially Manchester and London wouldn't have the money to.
(26-07-2022, 10:32 AM)p2004 Wrote: As far as I'm aware Suspilne, the Ukrainian public broadcaster, is not financially supporting the contest - so it is up to the BBC to find the money.
It will be a BBC Studios/EBU event, so there will be sponsors almost certainly who just don't appear on the BBC broadcast. If the host city is chosen purely on the idea of how much the BBC may or may not have to pay to host, I reckon Glasgow's got the best chance, with the Scottish Government probably eager to financially back a Glasgow hosting in a way that potentially Manchester and London wouldn't have the money to.
I get the impression from Government comments that the UK Government will contribute some funds towards the contest because they are keen for the UK-Ukraine relationship to be retained positively. With that in mind, I think any English City would be as feasible as Glasgow. I'm not sure the current Scottish government would enjoy a Union flag in the Eurovision logo.
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(26-07-2022, 02:43 AM)telebox2001 Wrote: Tech Q - would Salford still downlink from the world satellite feed, or would the BBC line-feed Salford from the venue?
On the presenting point - an easy compromise would be to have a UK and a Ukrainian live show presentation team.
On the technical point, I'm sure the BBC would still downlink via the EBU satellite/fibre circuits, wouldn't they?
Pretty sure everything has to go via Geneva, for compliance issues, so Eurovision can see its the same feed of the same show for all member broadcasters, and coming back again.
If it was routed direct from venue, to broadcaster TX suite, to the local transmission chain, then that allows the back door open for all sorts of unofficial 'localised' input (political captions, blip breaks 'accidental loss of the feed' ect)
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(27-07-2022, 03:21 PM)SteveRW Wrote: (26-07-2022, 10:32 AM)p2004 Wrote: As far as I'm aware Suspilne, the Ukrainian public broadcaster, is not financially supporting the contest - so it is up to the BBC to find the money.
It will be a BBC Studios/EBU event, so there will be sponsors almost certainly who just don't appear on the BBC broadcast. If the host city is chosen purely on the idea of how much the BBC may or may not have to pay to host, I reckon Glasgow's got the best chance, with the Scottish Government probably eager to financially back a Glasgow hosting in a way that potentially Manchester and London wouldn't have the money to.
I get the impression from Government comments that the UK Government will contribute some funds towards the contest because they are keen for the UK-Ukraine relationship to be retained positively. With that in mind, I think any English City would be as feasible as Glasgow. I'm not sure the current Scottish government would enjoy a Union flag in the Eurovision logo.
I'm pretty certain the current Scottish Government wouldn't be concerned at all with a Union Flag in the logo of an event that puts a Scottish city front and centre of a major international event watched by over a 100 million viewers with millions pumped into the local economy.
It was less than a year ago that every lamppost in Glasgow was covered in Cop26 banners saying "Glasgow, UK" on them. No nationalist seeing their city on the world stage is going to be particularly bothered in the grand scheme of things.
By the way, just thinking of a date to host Eurovision next year.
What a shame the 23rd June is a Friday...
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I don’t know how much pop culture is being represented in the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony but I wouldn’t be surprised if Birmingham hosting in 1998 is referenced at some point. It’ll be a missed opportunity if they don’t.
(27-07-2022, 03:21 PM)SteveRW Wrote: (26-07-2022, 10:32 AM)p2004 Wrote: As far as I'm aware Suspilne, the Ukrainian public broadcaster, is not financially supporting the contest - so it is up to the BBC to find the money.
It will be a BBC Studios/EBU event, so there will be sponsors almost certainly who just don't appear on the BBC broadcast. If the host city is chosen purely on the idea of how much the BBC may or may not have to pay to host, I reckon Glasgow's got the best chance, with the Scottish Government probably eager to financially back a Glasgow hosting in a way that potentially Manchester and London wouldn't have the money to.
I get the impression from Government comments that the UK Government will contribute some funds towards the contest because they are keen for the UK-Ukraine relationship to be retained positively. With that in mind, I think any English City would be as feasible as Glasgow. I'm not sure the current Scottish government would enjoy a Union flag in the Eurovision logo.
I think your really stretching here....
Also there's a sizeable chance the Eurovision logo could include a Ukrainian flag instead of the Union Jack
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(27-07-2022, 03:54 PM)DamC Wrote: Also there's a sizeable chance the Eurovision logo could include a Ukrainian flag instead of the Union Jack It’s pretty well assumed and give the ESC press release hints at it, it’ll feature both flags. Remember this is a UK hosted contest with nods to Ukraine.
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It is perhaps poetic that we wait all these years for a home contest and the forum discussing it shuts down.
27-07-2022, 04:13 PM
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(27-07-2022, 04:03 PM)telebox2001 Wrote: It is perhaps poetic that we wait all these years for a home contest and the forum discussing it shuts down. I guess TV Forum replacements are going to be a bit like Countdown hosts since Richard Whitley. After having one for two decades, the replacements only last a year or two.
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We'll see. Remember, if you're setting up a replacement, Rob said you're welcome to advertise it in the Farewell thread.
And back on topic, I think they'll probably use a split flag logo. The left side of the heart will be one of the flags, and the right half the other.
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Yes, the general consensus is it will be half and half in the heart.
Of course in previous proxy hostings the previous winner wasn't recognised, back in 1980 for example no nod was given to Israel's home win at all (IBA of course sat it out due to, I think, a clash with a Holocaust Memorial Day?) and the show was presented entirely in Dutch. The most famous year, Brighton 1974, was itself a proxy hosting for Luxembourg, but it was a very British show.
Obviously, however, this one is a first; the previous proxies were of either down to sheer finance or in Monaco's case, a lack of a venue. War has caused this particular relocation.
Whilst it's sad for Ukraine, what can't be forgotten is it's the war which got Stefania its victory. I'm not convinced that it would have done as well in peacetime. Top 10 for sure, but it wasn't a winner - and NTU/UA  BC, despite being one of the most successful "new Eurovision" countries have sent much stronger entries in the past.
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Seems to have been two versions around in the "official" announcements - one with the half and half, and one which is empty. I wouldn't be surprised if they go for the second but with a more abstract incorporation of blue and yellow into the colour scheme.
Of course they'll need a slogan too - suspect they might go for something a bit more meaningful this time such as #SolidarityInSong.
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I think we’re possibly overthinking things here. It’s a song contest first and foremost and I don’t think they’ll want to be particularly Ukraine-ifying it - recent contests have been pretty generic and there’s a risk of talk of solidarity etc taking over things. Certainly this year’s wasn’t exactly Italian-feeling, whatever that’d even mean. There’ll be a mention, maybe a Ukrainian host (but I doubt it), but otherwise it’s a show with 20+ performances which could be anywhere.
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