Sky News: 2021 Refresh
Real question. Is there some UK flight restriction that makes the pilot continually circle the scene rather than hover. It gives me a headache or dizzy. Ive only noticed that in the UK. In Japan, Canada, Australia and US their news choppers sit still over a scene for a bit then it moves, then it stops again. In the UK it seems they constantly are swirling and circling. Its not like you can still hear on the ground just because its circling, I just wonder if its an actual UK flight regulations mandate and not just a noise thing for the people on the ground. Let me know if you know for sure.
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(19-07-2022, 04:19 PM)Markymark Wrote:
(19-07-2022, 04:15 PM)Worzel Wrote: G-INTV was up earlier.

May well have been instructed to move away, to allow emergency service etc helicoptors in

As well as the down draft fanning the flames. It was only up for an hour and landed at 3:03pm.
As seen on BBC Newswatch
(19-07-2022, 04:19 PM)Markymark Wrote:
(19-07-2022, 04:15 PM)Worzel Wrote: G-INTV was up earlier.

May well have been instructed to move away, to allow emergency service etc helicoptors in

G-LENI up now.

Both G-MPSC (police helicopter) and the camera heli were up over scene doing the usual height separation tactic.

(Don't think G-INTV has been used recently.)
(19-07-2022, 04:23 PM)Worzel Wrote: As well as the down draft fanning the flames. It was only up for an hour and landed at 3:03pm.

Hmmm well I dont know about that one. They actually arent that low to the ground. And depending on the optical lens zoom they dont have to be that close, they can be miles away. Maybe they have older cameras and equipment on those choppers. BUt again its seems that the choppers are always moving in circular patterns for everystory. It is because they are trrying to stay connected to a transmitter or relay tower? I dont know? Just guessing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpJpXxTtDr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK3xRxi68ps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Dk-K27DPQ
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(19-07-2022, 04:24 PM)valley Wrote:
(19-07-2022, 04:19 PM)Markymark Wrote: May well have been instructed to move away, to allow emergency service etc helicoptors in

G-LENI up now.

Both G-MPSC (police helicopter) and the camera heli were up over scene doing the usual height separation tactic.

(Don't think G-INTV has been used recently.)

G-INTV was up earlier and it has just gone to flight again... https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/GINTV
As seen on BBC Newswatch
Helicopter feed is on 16e, From G-LENI i assume

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(19-07-2022, 04:28 PM)Worzel Wrote:
(19-07-2022, 04:24 PM)valley Wrote: G-LENI up now.

Both G-MPSC (police helicopter) and the camera heli were up over scene doing the usual height separation tactic.

(Don't think G-INTV has been used recently.)

G-INTV was up earlier and it has just gone to flight again... 
Thanks. Wasn't showing up on the log I was looking at.
(19-07-2022, 04:27 PM)Mouseboy33 Wrote:
(19-07-2022, 04:23 PM)Worzel Wrote: As well as the down draft fanning the flames. It was only up for an hour and landed at 3:03pm.

Hmmm well I dont know about that one. They actually arent that low to the ground. And depending on the optical lens zoom they dont have to be that close, they can be miles away. Maybe they have older cameras and equipment on those choppers. BUt again its seems that the choppers are always moving in circular patterns for everystory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpJpXxTtDr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK3xRxi68ps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Dk-K27DPQ

Thanks Mouseboy. I'm fully aware of how they generally fly. I was also a special constable for a time and flew in a police helicopter and know that they do have to fly low on occasion, especially if they're close to an airport or a restricted flight zone.
As seen on BBC Newswatch
(19-07-2022, 04:39 PM)Worzel Wrote:
(19-07-2022, 04:27 PM)Mouseboy33 Wrote: Hmmm well I dont know about that one. They actually arent that low to the ground. And depending on the optical lens zoom they dont have to be that close, they can be miles away. Maybe they have older cameras and equipment on those choppers. BUt again its seems that the choppers are always moving in circular patterns for everystory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpJpXxTtDr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK3xRxi68ps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Dk-K27DPQ

Thanks Mouseboy. I'm fully aware of how they generally fly. I was also a special constable for a time and flew in a police helicopter and know that they do have to fly low on occasion, especially if they're close to an airport or a restricted flight zone.
Cool! How did that go? Maybe you can give us some more insight. Because if blowing the smoke is the case, they must have been in a highly restricted area . GOod to know we have a chopper pilot that can answer questions on here.

The new LIVE shots they have settled down a bit and they are miles away and higher up from the emergency services helicopter which just passed underneath them live on air. This is typically what you seen in the US the media choppers will fly at a higher altitude than the emergency services choppers which are usually lower down to the ground.

These images are devastating and scary for the residents but it goes to show how dangerous the conditions are and that people need to be careful about starting fires.
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(19-07-2022, 04:47 PM)Mouseboy33 Wrote:
(19-07-2022, 04:39 PM)Worzel Wrote: Thanks Mouseboy. I'm fully aware of how they generally fly. I was also a special constable for a time and flew in a police helicopter and know that they do have to fly low on occasion, especially if they're close to an airport or a restricted flight zone.
Cool! How did that go? Maybe you can give us some more insight.  Because if blowing the smoke is the case, they must have been in a highly restricted area because every shot they used was low to the ground in danger of blowing smoke.
The new LIVE shots they have settled down a bit  and they are miles away and higher up from the emergency services helicopter which just passed underneath them live on air. This is typically what you seen in the US the media choppers will fly at a higher altitude than the emergency services choppers which are usually lower down to the ground.

A lot of that information is operationally sensitive and this forum is certainly not the place to discuss that I'm afraid so I'm not going to divulge.

I think most people can see the current shots are some distance away.
As seen on BBC Newswatch
We dont want do violate that!!!! Smile We arent look for information that violates the official secrets act LOL! Hehehhe
Just generally stuff since you seem to know about helicopters
Do you know how low media choppers are allow to fly?
Interesting that this type of information and The UK Skyway code is published online and readily available to the public to read. The new SkyCopter shots were right over the top of the scenes in some places. They are getting better as they day goes on.
https://www.nats.aero/ae-home/introduction-to-airspace/
https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP...on%203.pdf
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This is turning into a rotor thread and, according to the rules, rotor talk is not allowed.

I’ll get my coat........
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(19-07-2022, 05:40 PM)JamesWorldNews Wrote: This is turning into a rotor thread and, according to the rules, rotor talk is not allowed.

I’ll get my coat........
I feel like someone’s done this pun before but good try!
Dermot started Sky News Tonight with his suit off and after the 1st VT, appeared with it on again!

EDIT: Took it off again at 7:17pm. Probably the best thing to follow today. ?
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(19-07-2022, 07:05 PM)TMD_24 Wrote: Dermot started Sky News Tonight with his suit off and after the 1st VT, appeared with it on again!

EDIT: Took it off again at 7:17pm. Probably the best thing to follow today. ?

Hopefully just his suit jacket otherwise I'd be a little concerned...

The temperature in the Millbank studio (and of the entire building in my experience) is never quite as it should be.


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