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#46
Thanks for the explanations. That explains the post count discrepancy, I assumed that third post was deleted, but if it's still there but only admins and moderators can see it that explains the difference. The reason I was looking at that member's posts was because I was curious about the red card he got, as the two posts I could see looked innocuous.

As for the navbar, those links did only barely fit in the space before, I just would've expected the FAQ link to be pushed down to the three lines menu rather than all of it. It's weird, but yeah, not a major issue. It'll solve itself once that BBC Rebrand section gets absorbed back into the rest of the forum in a couple of weeks after all.
#47
It’s all on how the menu is coded. It’s common in responsive design for menus that don’t fit to simply collapse to a hamburger menu, which is what’s happening here. That’s all that happened before, when viewed on a smaller screen such as a mobile, it doesn’t fit the fixed width layout so you get the hamburger.
#48
Rob post_id=47530 time= user_id=2 Wrote:
adamiow post_id=47528 time= user_id=1277 Wrote:I've been switched from Forum Lite to the normal version since last visiting and having swapped back, the lite version has gone back to default phpBB style.

Yes, I was just about to post about that.

Forum Light is supposed to be the default phpBB template. Because of the issues yesterday, I noticed that the grey version of the template (the temporary one) was still being used by some. For everyone who was getting that version, they've now been switched to the blue one.

Seems pointless having three different templates in place, it would be a pain to update all of them!!!

Ok. I didn't realise there was three templates. Will you be adding the logo and favicon to Forum Lite?
#49
I'd like to request an "Upload" button for the Quick Reply box, please.
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#50
You know what? Seconded. It's all well and good telling people to use the Metropol Upload Service, but if users can't find it? The Upload button only appears when you're on Full Editor, and not Quick Reply, so most users probably don't notice it's there.
#51
Just found a minor issue with the Search - paging doesn't work, if you try do go to Page 2 I get this:

"Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in 557 seconds."

I wasn't logged in when I did the search so I'm not sure if that's it but thought I should report.
#52
frasergj post_id=47851 time= user_id=736 Wrote:Just found a minor issue with the Search - paging doesn't work, if you try do go to Page 2 I get this:

"Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in 557 seconds."

I wasn't logged in when I did the search so I'm not sure if that's it but thought I should report.

Should now be fixed.
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#53
Is it possible to consider changing the width elements of the forum from a fixed width design to what would be defined as "fluid width"? Currently, the design is set in a way that the width is of a fixed value: thats great if you have a smaller resolution, but on 1080p or even higher resolutions than that, it can feel somewhat narrow.

A fluid value (basically the width is defined in percentage, rather than px) would allow the width to be responsive to the width of the users device, which would also resolve the navbar at the top collapsing into a hamburger menu [which I've found has made it somewhat harder to navigate because now I have to click twice to get to a specific forum section rather than just once: either by going to the forum homepage or clicking the hamburger menu button].
#54
SuperSajuuk post_id=48291 time= user_id=1205 Wrote:Is it possible to consider changing the width elements of the forum from a fixed width design to what would be defined as "fluid width"? Currently, the design is set in a way that the width is of a fixed value: thats great if you have a smaller resolution, but on 1080p or even higher resolutions than that, it can feel somewhat narrow.

A fluid value (basically the width is defined in percentage, rather than px) would allow the width to be responsive to the width of the users device, which would also resolve the navbar at the top collapsing into a hamburger menu [which I've found has made it somewhat harder to navigate because now I have to click twice to get to a specific forum section rather than just once: either by going to the forum homepage or clicking the hamburger menu button].

Hello, I'm going to butt in here if thats OK.

The issue with using a fluid width is the line length becomes increasingly long, especially on 4k monitors.

When you read text on a screen your eyes do not read one word at a time but jump around taking in information. You then have three areas of "fixation" that happens. You focus on the word you're looking at, you then have a slightly less detailed focus, followed by a peripheral vision. You're only reading the first one, and it's this third one that works out where your eyes will jump to next.

The jumping is important because you cannot see when your eyes are moving. Look in a mirror and move your eyes, you'll see your eyes appear in the new location but never them actually moving. Your brain fills in the blank as your eye moves and then tricks you into thinking it happened in the past. This is called a saccade (sa-kaid).

The key thing here is the longer the line length, the harder it is to land on the right location between saccades and the more often your eyes will jump back to the previous location and try again. The more this happens the tireder you become as you read and the more you lose interest.

tl:dr - fluid layouts on message boards mean its harder to read the content and therefore are a bad idea.
#55
Pete post_id=48326 time= user_id=1045 Wrote:
SuperSajuuk post_id=48291 time= user_id=1205 Wrote:Is it possible to consider changing the width elements of the forum from a fixed width design to what would be defined as "fluid width"? Currently, the design is set in a way that the width is of a fixed value: thats great if you have a smaller resolution, but on 1080p or even higher resolutions than that, it can feel somewhat narrow.

A fluid value (basically the width is defined in percentage, rather than px) would allow the width to be responsive to the width of the users device, which would also resolve the navbar at the top collapsing into a hamburger menu [which I've found has made it somewhat harder to navigate because now I have to click twice to get to a specific forum section rather than just once: either by going to the forum homepage or clicking the hamburger menu button].

Hello, I'm going to butt in here if thats OK.

The issue with using a fluid width is the line length becomes increasingly long, especially on 4k monitors.

When you read text on a screen your eyes do not read one word at a time but jump around taking in information. You then have three areas of "fixation" that happens. You focus on the word you're looking at, you then have a slightly less detailed focus, followed by a peripheral vision. You're only reading the first one, and it's this third one that works out where your eyes will jump to next.

The jumping is important because you cannot see when your eyes are moving. Look in a mirror and move your eyes, you'll see your eyes appear in the new location but never them actually moving. Your brain fills in the blank as your eye moves and then tricks you into thinking it happened in the past. This is called a saccade (sa-kaid).

The key thing here is the longer the line length, the harder it is to land on the right location between saccades and the more often your eyes will jump back to the previous location and try again. The more this happens the tireder you become as you read and the more you lose interest.

tl:dr - fluid layouts on message boards mean its harder to read the content and therefore are a bad idea.
thats fair enough and i had not considered this. That being said, i do think the option could be useful to have, perhaps either a toggleable control [similar to the dark mode option] or a duplicate theme. Although the latter would be more work compared to a toggle that users can switch back and forth from. (y)
#56
Scrotnig post_id=47576 time= user_id=2047 Wrote:It’s all on how the menu is coded. It’s common in responsive design for menus that don’t fit to simply collapse to a hamburger menu, which is what’s happening here. That’s all that happened before, when viewed on a smaller screen such as a mobile, it doesn’t fit the fixed width layout so you get the hamburger.

It is but its weird to see a burger menu at 1920x1080 resolution, I'm finding needing to click to open a menu to change forums a tad annoying.

I also think the amount of BBC threads on this 'rebrand' seems a bit overkill, it's being way over egged and will probably be just a damp squid like most the BBCs rebrands? But happy to be surprised tomorrow morning.
#57
aaron_scotland post_id=48379 time= user_id=735 Wrote:I also think the amount of BBC threads on this 'rebrand' seems a bit overkill, it's being way over egged and will probably be just a damp squid like most the BBCs rebrands?

It's the perfect time to start new threads so that content doesn't get lost.

I'll look at the menu situation when I've got a spare moment this week.
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#58
Someone really ought to fetch that poor squid a towel; he's all too often erroneously moistened.
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#59
Is it possible to compromise? Have a variable width, but with a maximum set? So, it would cap at, say, 2056px?
#60
bilky asko post_id=48535 time= user_id=973 Wrote:On an unrelated note, would it be possible to remove the notification for "removed kudos"? I can't imagine it's nice for someone who has erroneously given kudos to have their mistake amplified to the affected user.

Although there isn't an option to remove this globally, you can turn off removed kudos notifications through your user control panel.
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