Rolling News post_id=34576 time= user_id=1254 Wrote:Chud post_id=34574 time= user_id=1301 Wrote:[img] https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/474e...04df10.jpg[/img]
They might go all out and do a full revamp to include the new logo and titles.
Men standing with all the women very much sitting as their deputies…couldn’t see them doing a photo like that now!
Only two of the men are standing.
Spring Pixie post_id=34581 time= user_id=1785 Wrote:Rolling News post_id=34576 time= user_id=1254 Wrote:Chud post_id=34574 time= user_id=1301 Wrote:[img] https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/474e...04df10.jpg[/img]
They might go all out and do a full revamp to include the new logo and titles.
Men standing with all the women very much sitting as their deputies…couldn’t see them doing a photo like that now!
Hardly. Dermot and Natasha were equals on Breakfast. Darren was deputy to Anna on the One. George and Sophie were equals on the Six so it's only Fiona was was a deputy to a man.
Breakfast has always been male dominated with them having always sat on the left. You’re right about the One but you could argue Darren was considered more senior as he also did the Six/Ten and was main weekend anchor at the time. The Six initially wasn’t a fair partnership between George/Sophie in 2003 as the programme always began with George reading the top story and always did the story after the midway junction. The only time Sophie did it was when George was off and she presented with a stand in.
I wish Huw Edwards would just defect to itv / GMB now rather than stringing out his discontent with the BBC and his salary there for another few weeks to maximise his publicity before resigning.
I do wonder what hold GMB has over this place - the way some talk about it you'd think it had 10s of millions of viewers daily. It gets a paltry amount of viewers compare to News At 10 and is often basically the Daily Mail on TV - i really can't see Huw moving over there. Especially given he has the gig basically every news presenter wants of Election presenter at the BBC.
Indeed there’s no way will he leave the BBC. Especially as he has the Election gig pretty much nailed but then that’s only every 5 years? Someone mentioned earlier about Marr possibly moving on so he could semi retire and just work once a week, Breakfast with Huw?, possibly also do the occasional stint on network bulletins like Sissons & Buerk did after they left? Also does he still do stuff for BBC Wales? They’re might be some part time openings for him there, or on BBC Radio. But he won’t go to GMB, Channel 4 and certainly not Channel 5 that’s for sure.
bfgarmy post_id=34595 time= user_id=977 Wrote:I do wonder what hold GMB has over this place - the way some talk about it you'd think it had 10s of millions of viewers daily. It gets a paltry amount of viewers compare to News At 10 and is often basically the Daily Mail on TV - i really can't see Huw moving over there. Especially given he has the gig basically every news presenter wants of Election presenter at the BBC.
Indeed it would be rather odd to spend the best part of three decades climbing the BBC presenting ladder, get
THE most senior television presenting role in the country and then - fairly quickly - defect to a not particularly well regarded breakfast programme. Especially considering - and I don't want to be too blunt here - there are almost certainly going to be some very major once-in-a-lifetime national events coming up in the not too distant future that you'd be fronting as the BBC's lead presenter for royal events.
Listened to Huw's full interview on BBC Radio Cymru and here are some further points that I found of interest:
- Felt like that they created something brand new in co-anchoring the 2021 Election programme with Kirsty Wark, giving comprehensive coverage to the Welsh and Scottish elections nationally
- Got some research work that he does, including going to the National Archive, going on and doesn't have much time to do so...(lead into talk about him possibly leaving News at Ten soonish)
- Can't see himself giving up presenting or broadcasting full stop but don't think he will do the nightly broadcasting for much longer. Not leaving tomorrow, he stills enjoys News at Ten but don't want to do that work pattern for much longer
- Asked about having opinions on Twitter, says he expresses his opinions within reason. "The BBC can be quite flexible. They have guidlines, and the guidelines can be seen to be quite strict, but they understand I have opinions particulary on the Welsh Language and culture. They are, on the whole, are happy for me to express an opinion as long as I don't upset too many people. I'm rather careful what I say even if I express opinions on things. If there is a misunderstanding I'm happy to delete a tweet if I think people misunderstood. That has happened, I don't like doing it, but I'm willing to do it as it solves a problem maybe. If I have my way, I would say far more."
- He still boxes, still pssionate for Welsh chapel organs, will be on holiday abroad for his birthday and really, really doesn't like or want a surprise party.
Found his opinions on his Twitter usage quite interesting in light of a few (minor) run-ins with management about his tweets and the overall discourse about BBC presenters using Twitter. Sensible that he isn't fully gagged but there is understood limits that allow him to express himself on things he find important.
VMPhil post_id=34586 time=1629151078 user_id=1043 Wrote:Rolling News post_id=34576 time= user_id=1254 Wrote:Chud post_id=34574 time= user_id=1301 Wrote:[img] https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/474e...04df10.jpg[/img]
They might go all out and do a full revamp to include the new logo and titles.
Men standing with all the women very much sitting as their deputies…couldn’t see them doing a photo like that now!
Only two of the men are standing.
Only one actually. And Anna Ford was nobody’s deputy!!
Moz post_id=34474 time=1629129973 user_id=746 Wrote:Not a fan to be honest so glad of this news.
Jane Hill should 100% get the gig. She’s the best the BBC has.
Disagree, Tim Wilcox is the best reporter/lead they have,. remember when he took control of the trapped miners situation
JasonJones01 post_id=34687 time= user_id=1783 Wrote:Moz post_id=34474 time=1629129973 user_id=746 Wrote:Not a fan to be honest so glad of this news.
Jane Hill should 100% get the gig. She’s the best the BBC has.
Disagree, Tim Wilcox is the best reporter/lead they have,. remember when he took control of the trapped miners situation
I mean, gosh, the organisation is full of journalists and broadcasters who have led extraordinary coverage of a wide range of developing stories on location. You're right that Wilcox was brilliant during that coverage, quite a number of years ago now, but that isn't exactly proof that he's 'the best reporter/lead they have'. Apart from anything, he's done little reporting (as opposed to presenting) since for the BBC.
Rolling News post_id=34576 time= user_id=1254 Wrote:Chud post_id=34574 time= user_id=1301 Wrote:[img] https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/474e...04df10.jpg[/img]
They might go all out and do a full revamp to include the new logo and titles.
Men standing with all the women very much sitting as their deputies…couldn’t see them doing a photo like that now!
Might the simpler explanation be that the photographer needed to get eight people into a neat, squarish shot while making it seem natural and inviting, and positioned the presenters based on their height rather than gender? Anna Ford would, at the time, have been the most experienced and well-known among that group, sat next to (at the time) the least experienced and least well known – as others have said, it doesn't really exactly correlate with seniority. Equally, the 'lead' presenter of the flagship programme is perched on the edge of the sofa, despite being 'face' of the brand. Think you've overthought that a little.
What strikes me about the photo is actually
- The gender-balance of the team – contrast this to promotional photos for panel shows or most sporting coverage
- That a quarter of the team is BAME – ditto
- The (relative) youth of everyone outside of Anna Ford, and the various accusations that would be levelled at the BBC about agism by presenters and correspondents pretty much ever since
- How uninviting and OTT the use of red was in that era, especially in promotional material.
As an aside, I remember Darren Jordan had a great deal of gravitas and strong journalistic pedigree, and suspect the BBC underused him in his last few years at the Corporation. Also of note: when he and Kaplinsky each left, the BBC did not appoint (or announce) a direct replacement for them, with their roles simply being assumed within the existing pool of presenters.
I'd also be interested to know what the average longevity is of staff - not only presenters - sticking with early-morning television? In the time that Huw Edwards has been on the Ten, for example, Breakfast has gone through at least four different pairs of lead presenters. In contrast, Nicky Campbell has presented 5Live Breakfast (typically 5 days a week) since 2003 and is only now stepping back, while Rachel Burden has been there for a decade now. I always assumed it was the early starts and night shifts that limited how long people stay in early morning broadcasting jobs, but is there also a significant television-radio difference?
House post_id=34695 time= user_id=1266 Wrote:What strikes me about the photo is actually- The gender-balance of the team – contrast this to promotional photos for panel shows or most sporting coverage
- That a quarter of the team is BAME – ditto
- The (relative) youth of everyone outside of Anna Ford, and the various accusations that would be levelled at the BBC about agism by presenters and correspondents pretty much ever since
Roger Mosey was Head of News at the time, and he says in his book that nobody seemed to notice it, but they had a really good mix of age, gender and race. Incidentally while it now seems obvious that Huw just moved from the Six to the Ten in 2003, they did actually consider it extensively and did a series of pilots with Huw, Fiona and George before giving Huw the main anchor job.
DTV post_id=34601 time= user_id=1056 Wrote:Indeed it would be rather odd to spend the best part of three decades climbing the BBC presenting ladder, get THE most senior television presenting role in the country and then - fairly quickly - defect to a not particularly well regarded breakfast programme.
Not sure about the "fairly quickly" there, given he's been in his current slot for eighteen years now, which I would think is probably the longest uninterrupted spell anyone has spent as main presenter as one of the flagship news bulletins on British TV (I know people like Richard Baker were on for longer but that was in an era when all the newsreaders did every bulletin and he was just one of many presenters, and while Alastair Burnet was on News at Ten from 1967 to 1991, he left for several years in the seventies).
But I would agree with the rest, there is a strange idea on this and other forums that if you're a newsreader (or a DJ) then that's what you do for your entire career, and so whenever anyone announces they're going, or thinking of going, there are endless suggestions of other newsreading jobs they could do, when in most cases - and as Huw specifically mentions in the interview that has sparked all this off - it's because they've got bored of doing it day-in day-out and they want to do other things. They're not leaving to start scrabbling around for cover gigs on LBC or anything like that. It's like when Katie Derham left ITN and joined the Beeb and everyone started coming up with fantasy rotas, and she ended up not reading the news at all.
JasonJones01 post_id=34687 time= user_id=1783 Wrote:Moz post_id=34474 time=1629129973 user_id=746 Wrote:Not a fan to be honest so glad of this news.
Jane Hill should 100% get the gig. She’s the best the BBC has.
Disagree, Tim Wilcox is the best reporter/lead they have,. remember when he took control of the trapped miners situation
Imagine that... Hello, you're watching the BBC News at 10 with me Tim Willcox ?
Steve Williams post_id=34702 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:Not sure about the "fairly quickly" there, given he's been in his current slot for eighteen years now, which I would think is probably the longest uninterrupted spell anyone has spent as main presenter as one of the flagship news bulletins on British TV (I know people like Richard Baker were on for longer but that was in an era when all the newsreaders did every bulletin and he was just one of many presenters, and while Alastair Burnet was on News at Ten from 1967 to 1991, he left for several years in the seventies).
With regards to "
THE most senior television presenting role" I was referring to being effectively the BBC's chief presenter for national events (elections, royal events etc.) rather than as the BBC's senior newsreader. I'm not sure when he officially succeeded Dimbleby, but I'd say it would be fairly quick to leave the position after just four or five years - especially given a fair few major events on the horizon. Apologies if I wasn't clear.
I think of the regular BBC One news presenters, only Clive Myrie has the gravitas that puts him firmly in the Michael Buerk / Peter Sissons line of succession.