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deejay post_id=34803 time= user_id=880 Wrote:

The_IT_Technician post_id=34786 time= user_id=1741 Wrote:For those who are asking if there is going to be an actual audience, I received the following in my inbox yesterday. it looks like to be a full audience if they are making sure people are fully jabbed or can test negative etc. As I am Birmingham based i don't think I'll go to London just for this, as have to get to work etc

If anyone would like to attend, and can get to the location. I don't know if Rob is okay with it, I would suggest that you DM me and I will forward you Alison's contact number (I am at work, so will reply when I can) .. Rob are you okay with this ??

BBC Question Time – Afghanistan Live Special

You have in the past applied to participate in the studio audience of BBC Question Time. If you are still keen to take part, have not been on the programme in the last 10 years and would like to be considered for the above special Question Time in Harrow tomorrow evening please either call me on (number redacted) or reply with you name and telephone number and I will endeavour to call you.

This is open to anyone over the age of 16 years and willing to put forward questions on the situation in Afghanistan. We expect to be oversubscribed so please be aware this email does not guarantee a place in the live audience.

Anyone selected must either do a lateral flow test, show proof of vaccination, or proof of immunity based upon a positive PCR test taken with 180 days of the event.

I look forward to your reply and thank you in advance for your time and interest.

Yours sincerely,

Alison (surname redacted)
Audience Producer
Full House Audience Management
On behalf of the BBC and Mentorn Glasgow

This is quite an interesting email - 10 years seems quite a long time to keep personal information for members of a studio audience. As I understand it, GDPR doesn’t specify actual periods of time for retention of personal information, but - by way of an example - employers only keep employee records for 10 years if they’ve been involved in an accident. These audience members also ought to have given permission for their records to be kept on file for a decade.

Where does it say they keep your information for 10 years? I expect they're just hoping people will be honest and not apply if they've been on it in the last 10 years.

Ah, I think I have misunderstood the email then - it seems quite clunky to me.

ginnyfan post_id=34754 time=1629232190 user_id=1033 Wrote:^^^ Exactly. In fact, she wore jeans and sneakers, visible in the wide shot, which was unusual cause on World she's known for her extravagant outfits.

Whilst there’s nothing wrong with jeans and sneakers, it’s not really what you associate with a bbc newsreader.

RhysJR post_id=34719 time=1629219477 user_id=1340 Wrote:Wondered if Secunder Kermani is okay as he was still in Afghanistan late last week and hasn't been heard from since but he's safe and in Islamabad. Sounds like a case of a bit of unfortuante timing.

The BBC's Secunder Kermani now in Kabul and reporting from the streets, as well as live on the Six. Another tweet of his from a few days ago revealed that his colleague Malik Mudassir who did some live updates on the weekend news - captioned as 'BBC journalist' - is actually a cameraman and editor who filled in on-air at an urgent moment.

(An interesting first hand account of working in Kabul by Malik is also on the website.)

Lyse Doucet appears to be still be in Dubai, but obviously well abreast of all that's happening, and providing great analysis as usual.

ITV's John Irivine earlier this week went behind the scenes at Afghan TV. The headline stat is that only six of 30 stations on air before the Taliban takeover are still running.
https://youtu.be/VOu4QKJ2kWs?t=65


And Christian Fraser interviewed a female Afghan news presenter on the potential restrictions of female journalists in Afghanistan.
(As an aside I don't think I've seen before the feature of playing BBC clips within tweets like below)
https://twitter.com/kieronmirch/status/1...2977328130

In view of the current situation in Afghanistan, this may sound trivial, but the pronunciation of Kabul has become irritating to me during news reports.

I don't mind whether they call it 'Carbble' or 'Ka-Bull' (the latter is generally regarding as correct), but some change half way through their reports, which sounds unprofessional to say the least. Pick one and stick to it!

I noticed that there is a BBC news reporter who always uses the pronunciation 'Tarlyban'. But as he is very nice, I have adopted that usage. I am fickle!

Stuart post_id=35559 time= user_id=875 Wrote:... the pronunciation of Kabul has become irritating to me during news reports. I don't mind whether they call it 'Carbble' or 'Ka-Bull' (the latter is generally regarding as correct), but some change half way through their reports, which sounds unprofessional to say the least. Pick one and stick to it!

I have noticed this too. I felt compelled to take to Twitter about it last week to see what the general consensus was. With votes flooding in at a rate of one every three hours, 'Ka-bull' was found to be the victor among my followers.

https://twitter.com/DavidWhitfield4/stat...9720381444

I see that Lyse Doucet started reporting from Kabul airport yesterday, with Secunder Kermani covering activity in the city centre.

https://youtu.be/MRc41agu6PU

Have to admire and respect the likes of Lyse Doucet and others flying into a situation to report for us on the thousands attempting to fly out of that situation.

Stuart post_id=35559 time= user_id=875 Wrote:In view of the current situation in Afghanistan, this may sound trivial, but the pronunciation of Kabul has become irritating to me during news reports.

I don't mind whether they call it 'Carbble' or 'Ka-Bull' (the latter is generally regarding as correct), but some change half way through their reports, which sounds unprofessional to say the least. Pick one and stick to it!

I noticed that there is a BBC news reporter who always uses the pronunciation 'Tarlyban'. But as he is very nice, I have adopted that usage. I am fickle!

Generally I don't mind different pronunciations or "anglicisations" or even "colonialisations" of names. If you want to always use the "correct" name of cities and countries, as spoken by a local, then you have to accept that reports from Egypt will be signed off as from "Al Kuds" or its capital city "Al Karheera". Or from "Paree". Or any other city or country you care to pick whose origins are not in the English language. Some news reporters still refer to Burma and Rangoon!

While we're on the topic, the correct Farsi/Dari/Pashto pronunciation of Taliban has the first letter as more of a hard D than a T. That sound doesn't exist in English but is a separate letter in the Arabic-origin alphabet used in that part of the world - they have a D and T like we do, plus that letter too). Ritula Shah on R4 World Tonight pronounces it perfectly spot on!

bbctvtechop post_id=35640 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:Some news reporters still refer to Burma and Rangoon!

I thought I'd just share that I, and many other people from Burma that I know, still call it by the old names when speaking in English. It's a sort of low-key political statement not to use the "modern" name.
There are also arguments about how the name doesn't actually reflect all the ethnic groups but that's a conversation wildly off-topic.

I think pronouncing something wrong is fine, considering it's not being done in a malicious way. There are many places where you have to be a native speaker in order to be able to pronounce them correctly!

AndrewP post_id=35663 time= user_id=937 Wrote:I think pronouncing something wrong is fine, considering it's not being done in a malicious way. There are many places where you have to be a native speaker in order to be able to pronounce them correctly!

I certainly didn't criticise the pronunciations, my point was that they are not consistent through their report.

I know what they mean, but at least they should sound as though THEY know what they mean by saying the same thing each time.

scottishtv post_id=34914 time= user_id=1012 Wrote:The BBC's Secunder Kermani now in Kabul and reporting from the streets, as well as live on the Six. Another tweet of his from a few days ago revealed that his colleague Malik Mudassir who did some live updates on the weekend news - captioned as 'BBC journalist' - is actually a cameraman and editor who filled in on-air at an urgent moment.

(An interesting first hand account of working in Kabul by Malik is also on the website.)

I'd been wondering about this since seeing Mudassir last Sunday! My theory was that he was a local journalist retained by the BBC, and he was being used after Doucet couldn't get in. He looked rather nervous but by god, so would I have been if I'd been in his shoes.

Stuart post_id=35670 time= user_id=875 Wrote:

AndrewP post_id=35663 time= user_id=937 Wrote:I think pronouncing something wrong is fine, considering it's not being done in a malicious way. There are many places where you have to be a native speaker in order to be able to pronounce them correctly!

I certainly didn't criticise the pronunciations, my point was that they are not consistent through their report.

I know what they mean, but at least they should sound as though THEY know what they mean by saying the same thing each time.

Although some places often have different pronounciations of their names anyway (Shrewsbury for example, which some think is pronounced Shrowsbury). You would expect a bit of consistency though but frankly I suspect when reporting from what is probably one of the most dangerous places on earth at the moment your pronounciation is probably going to slip from time to time.

Another possibility is it could be deliberate if both pronounciations are common, but perhaps associated with different sides of the story.

We're very fortunate to be getting such good reporting under such difficult circumstances. The analysis and 'big picture' stuff is great on the BBC, but Stuart Ramsay at Sky News has filed some incredible on-the-ground reports over the last few days, gaining access where to where British Forces are processing evacuees.

This one from yesterday gives an insight to how UK soldiers are relying on Taliban fighters to assist with crowd control. And from today, travelling in the bus with evacuees from a compound passing others still waiting, and then boarding the plane to the UK. The big questions about this situation need to be asked, but these compelling human-level reports have been so humbling.

Once next Tuesday comes, I suppose Western journalists will have to have left Afghanistan too - possibly to neighbouring countries?