News Coverage UK Prime Minister & Government Resignations
(07-07-2022, 07:04 PM)Andrew Wrote: How did World get out of the Six towards the end, with the national weather and the throw to the regions?

There was a long close and montage with BBC News end so. Not heard an extended close such as that used tonight.
(07-07-2022, 07:00 PM)ALV Wrote:
(07-07-2022, 06:23 PM)Steve Wrote: The BBC Six is usually the most watched bulletin of the day in the UK, the BBC’s home country. To suggest they’re not going to use their flagship brand is just never going to happen. I’m sure the world understands they’re watching a programme on at 6pm in the UK.

I don't think ditching the number 6 will make them "lose their flagship brand"... For example, a few days ago they used the generic branding for their Six when the Six was delayed till 6:15PM... The newscast format is still retained and still feels "flagship". I just think it'd be more neat if they do exactly like the video below when they plan to simulcast their national bulletin to the World (jump to 16:19 for the titles):


It's just a little pet peeve of mine, I think WN should avoid any time references/checks... In fact, they used to pay attention to minor details like these with high level of consistency a few years ago (e.g the presenter says "The headlines at the top of the hour" rather then "The headlines at XXX AM/PM" during simulcasts; using generic titles when the Five/Newsroom Live/Afternoon Live is being simulcast). 

And yes, I know it's not a big deal to us TV geeks because we all watch the News Channel and World News side by side all the time and we know what's going on~ I'm just stating that I missed the old times where they paid attention to consistency and fascinating minor details like these and it seems they stopped caring in recent years...
I still remember on the Saturday after the Paris terror attack in 2015, the BBC brought up the number 6 for the weekend teatime newscast, which usually uses the generic intro. And that bulletin was also on One, News and World.

There’s no reason for them to ditch the flagship brand on a special and important news day.
Whilst I’m not sure I agree that the number 6 constitutes a “flagship brand”, I don’t think people watching around the world believe that BBC World News only exists in some sort of timeless dimension. I’m pretty sure they understand that a British-based channel might occasionally mention what time it is in the UK.
(07-07-2022, 07:23 PM)all new Phil Wrote: Whilst I’m not sure I agree that the number 6 constitutes a “flagship brand”, I don’t think people watching around the world believe that BBC World News only exists in some sort of timeless dimension. I’m pretty sure they understand that a British-based channel might occasionally mention what time it is in the UK.

They also used to try not to make it obvious it was broadcast from London, at least they've thrown in the towel on that ridiculous policy
Used twin screen function to keep an eye on both Johnson and the cricket last night!
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London’s 5G networks must be under tremendous strain today with all this TV coverage, almost all LiveU links I have seen today have been quite ropey.
Live stream of Question Time just about to start on iPlayer.
(07-07-2022, 07:43 PM)radiorebel Wrote: London’s 5G networks must be under tremendous strain today with all this TV coverage, almost all LiveU links I have seen today have been quite ropey.

It's somewhat outside of my area of expertise, but the UK doesn't really have 5G "standalone" networks yet and if you do a speedtest in a 5G area you'll find that the upstream isn't really any better than you get from a 4G only cell site. 

You'd think the popular locations, and especially Downing Street itself would have some sort of wired connection that's always available. Not a new idea, the BBC had a coax network covering all the important places in London like 50 years ago
(07-07-2022, 08:10 PM)i.h Wrote:
(07-07-2022, 07:43 PM)radiorebel Wrote: London’s 5G networks must be under tremendous strain today with all this TV coverage, almost all LiveU links I have seen today have been quite ropey.

It's somewhat outside of my area of expertise, but the UK doesn't really have 5G "standalone" networks yet and if you do a speedtest in a 5G area you'll find that the upstream isn't really any better than you get from a 4G only cell site. 

You'd think the popular locations, and especially Downing Street itself would have some sort of wired connection that's always available. Not a new idea, the BBC had a coax network covering all the important places in London like 50 years ago

College Green has plug in fibre points which broadcasters can use. I don't know what the set up outside Downing Street is but assume there would be something similar as using a Sat Truck is really a non-option.
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Certainly been a day where I've had the BBC News on at varying points between work. Have to say I chuckled slightly seeing the old BBC News logo end the Extended News at Six
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Only lasted 2 days this time but it was nice to be able to watch the BBC News channel online at work here in Dublin
STV's 6pm news bulletin was pan-regional from Westminster.
(07-07-2022, 08:10 PM)i.h Wrote:
(07-07-2022, 07:43 PM)radiorebel Wrote: London’s 5G networks must be under tremendous strain today with all this TV coverage, almost all LiveU links I have seen today have been quite ropey.

It's somewhat outside of my area of expertise, but the UK doesn't really have 5G "standalone" networks yet and if you do a speedtest in a 5G area you'll find that the upstream isn't really any better than you get from a 4G only cell site. 

You'd think the popular locations, and especially Downing Street itself would have some sort of wired connection that's always available. Not a new idea, the BBC had a coax network covering all the important places in London like 50 years ago
Yes there is wired connectivity at Downing Street and other locations that are used often. The BBC, Sky and ITN all have plug in points in the street itself and that was extended inside for the new briefing room. Each will have several vision circuits out, as mentioned earlier they pool things like shots of the door and speeches like today's - they will have them on seperate vision circuits

College Green also has a lot of connectivity for the broadcasters it being next door to their Millbank facilities. 

There are plug-in points in all sorts of places, the High Court is one that gets used a lot. They aren't new but whereas they were wire based, then fibre. At one point they rolled out a load round London using CCTV circuits. They're all IP now so either have dedicated video and audio connections or they just encode everything and send it as digits. They also have WiFi so the reporter and crew can use that. I believe some have radiocam receivers built-in.

As for 5G standalone networks, they have been used here
(07-07-2022, 08:13 PM)Worzel Wrote:
(07-07-2022, 08:10 PM)i.h Wrote: It's somewhat outside of my area of expertise, but the UK doesn't really have 5G "standalone" networks yet and if you do a speedtest in a 5G area you'll find that the upstream isn't really any better than you get from a 4G only cell site. 

You'd think the popular locations, and especially Downing Street itself would have some sort of wired connection that's always available. Not a new idea, the BBC had a coax network covering all the important places in London like 50 years ago

College Green has plug in fibre points which broadcasters can use. I don't know what the set up outside Downing Street is but assume there would be something similar as using a Sat Truck is really a non-option.

Downing Street definitely has plug-in points. 

(If you ever wondered what a contribution wallbox looks like, here's Sky's High Court one in 2016.)

https://twitter.com/NewsTech/status/755750936199454720
(07-07-2022, 08:59 PM)valley Wrote:
(07-07-2022, 08:13 PM)Worzel Wrote: College Green has plug in fibre points which broadcasters can use. I don't know what the set up outside Downing Street is but assume there would be something similar as using a Sat Truck is really a non-option.

Downing Street definitely has plug-in points. 

(If you ever wondered what a contribution wallbox looks like, here's Sky's High Court one in 2016.)

https://twitter.com/NewsTech/status/755750936199454720

interesting. I had Sky on for much of the day and there were a couple of times where it dropped out to a LiveU splash screen. I know that stuff can also work over non-mobile connections but it would imply that they might not have been wired?


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