BBC News: April 2022 onwards

[Stuart]

As an aside, why is that not permitted? (Just curious)

Because it's tedious beyond belief!

It is here, and was on the 'blue place' for the same reason!

[harshy]

Usually happens when there’s nothing to talk about on a presentation level then just drifts off to rota style chat.

[Brekkie]

The headline inserted in the local headline slot on the BBC News Channel couldn't have been more generic - "Stay with us on BBC News for continuing coverage and analysis from our team of correspondents in the UK and around the world". No reference to the story specifically at all.

[Worzel]

BBC News are going to have to work out what they're going to do about government ministers titles when both the News Channel and World fully merge.

The opening to the 11pm hour with Tim Willcox on both World and Domestic using terms like 'British law makers', 'New Finance Minister' and 'New Health Minister' (the last one being technically wrong as there are junior health ministers) instead of MPs, Chancellor of the Exchequer and Health Secretary sounds rather odd to a domestic audience. If they're simulcasting they really should use the British terms.

There's also 'British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson'. I seldom hear 'American President, Joe Biden' on the domestic news channel, its normally just 'President Joe Biden'.

[Andrew]

BBC News are going to have to work out what they're going to do about government ministers titles when both the News Channel and World full merge.

The opening to the 11pm hour with Tim Willcox on both World and Domestic using terms like 'British law makers', 'New Finance Minister' and 'New Health Minister' (the last one being technically wrong as there are junior health ministers) instead of MPs, Chancellor of the Exchequer and Health Secretary sounds rather odd to a domestic audience. If they're simulcasting they really should use the British terms.

There's also 'British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson'. I seldom hear 'American President, Joe Biden' on the domestic news channel, its normally just 'President Joe Biden'.

The Irish prime minister is referred to as the Taoiseach as well

[Scratch_Perry]

BBC News are going to have to work out what they're going to do about government ministers titles when both the News Channel and World fully merge.

The opening to the 11pm hour with Tim Willcox on both World and Domestic using terms like 'British law makers', 'New Finance Minister' and 'New Health Minister' (the last one being technically wrong as there are junior health ministers) instead of MPs, Chancellor of the Exchequer and Health Secretary sounds rather odd to a domestic audience. If they're simulcasting they really should use the British terms.

There's also 'British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson'. I seldom hear 'American President, Joe Biden' on the domestic news channel, its normally just 'President Joe Biden'.

On World/Domestic simulcasts, another one is the Home Secretary, referred to as the (British) Interior Minister.

[Mr Q]

On World/Domestic simulcasts, another one is the Home Secretary, referred to as the (British) Interior Minister.

While I can understand why you'd translate "chancellor" to "finance minister" for the international audience, I'm not entirely sure the term "interior minister" makes much sense -- at least any more sense than "home secretary" or "home affairs minister". Mind you, it is one of the vaguer ministerial titles, compared to say "health minister" or "defence minister".

[DTV]

On World/Domestic simulcasts, another one is the Home Secretary, referred to as the (British) Interior Minister.

While I can understand why you'd translate "chancellor" to "finance minister" for the international audience, I'm not entirely sure the term "interior minister" makes much sense -- at least any more sense than "home secretary" or "home affairs minister". Mind you, it is one of the vaguer ministerial titles, compared to say "health minister" or "defence minister".

The term interior minister is used because that is the name of the counterpart position in most other countries, particularly within Europe. My view is that the World News style of x minister should take precedence on the new channel - British Secretaries of State are often casually referred to as ministers anyway, while the term Secretary to refer to senior ministers doesn't translate in many countries (US being an exception).

[Andrew]

Surely the ministers should be referred to by the titles they have in the country they represent. I wouldn’t expect the American ‘law maker’ who deals with finance to be referred as the ‘US Chancellor’ so it shouldn’t happen the other way

[neonemesis]

Surely the ministers should be referred to by the titles they have in the country they represent. I wouldn’t expect the American ‘law maker’ who deals with finance to be referred as the ‘US Chancellor’ so it shouldn’t happen the other way

I think it's a balance between accessibility (using terminology that is most easily understood by your audience) and fidelity (using the titles used in the home nation).

The news has a responsibility to be understood as much as it has to be accurate.

[DTV]

Surely the ministers should be referred to by the titles they have in the country they represent. I wouldn’t expect the American ‘law maker’ who deals with finance to be referred as the ‘US Chancellor’ so it shouldn’t happen the other way

I understand to a degree, but most other countries don't have a significant chunk of cabinet positions that have ridiculous antiquated names. With international news broadcasting, you want to be using terms that will be understood by as much of your audience as possible. Something like Chancellor of the Exchequer is not immediately understandable if you aren't familiar with British politics, nor is it intuitive. You can have the hybrid system of "...the Chancellor the Exchquer, that's the British finance minister,..." but it is a bit clunky and can come off as patronising.

[GraemeT]

Weird at 11pm there, newsday music and headline bumpers, but then regular titles after the headlines

[Chud]

Is this the first time we see Matthew in E since he left for world news?

[Worzel]

How do these logo gaffes make it to air?

[PATV Scunthorpe]

Double whammy for East Yorkshire & Lincolnshire...

Having not used the format since the introduction of the new Studio B set, Look North Hull decided to use the old opening sting due to the montage at the end of the Six... unfortunately it was old one with the Gill blocks.