International Presentation
(24-04-2022, 06:22 AM)Internationalman Wrote:
(23-04-2022, 11:50 PM)Roger Darthwell Wrote: And I thought that the BBC was the only one that came up with the idea of a bespoke font, how many other broadcasters have created their own fonts?
LOTS. DR, Norwegian TV 2, ZDF, RTL of Germany, CANAL FLIPPIN PLUS.
Sorry, got carried away there. Besides, I actually prefer when companies have their own fonts. It gives them an air of personality to them.

There's no need to apologise for being carried away @Internationalman , Thank you for answering me and also thank you to @Medianet.MX for answering me as well
(24-04-2022, 12:31 AM)Medianext.MX Wrote:
(24-04-2022, 12:02 AM)Roger Darthwell Wrote:
(23-04-2022, 11:53 PM)Brekkie Wrote:
(23-04-2022, 11:50 PM)Roger Darthwell Wrote: And I thought that the BBC was the only one that came up with the idea of a bespoke font, how many other broadcasters have created their own fonts?
Pretty much all the main ones.  It's a common thing to do nowadays.
Is it because of the need of saving money?
In part, but also to make a distinctive identity from the rest.

Personally, I am liking the new look from what has been seen so far. They're going for a "BBC Anything" style system, and they manage to make the brands distinctive without compromising it. Glad they're also retaining their longtime logo (unlike what TV 2 did last year), even redrawing it to fit smaller sizings, and making every of the elements (not just the dot, as it was imagined by Kemistry when tweaking the logo in 1999/2000) a part of the overall brand system.

In case the video isn't handy for you, here's how the broadcaster's main brands will look like (except P3, which might retain its distinctive branding, although tweaked, only time will tell).

[Image: NRK.png]

Did you make the image yourself or did you get it from a source?
(24-04-2022, 12:16 PM)ConorM98 Wrote:
(24-04-2022, 12:31 AM)Medianext.MX Wrote:
(24-04-2022, 12:02 AM)Roger Darthwell Wrote:
(23-04-2022, 11:53 PM)Brekkie Wrote:
(23-04-2022, 11:50 PM)Roger Darthwell Wrote: And I thought that the BBC was the only one that came up with the idea of a bespoke font, how many other broadcasters have created their own fonts?
Pretty much all the main ones.  It's a common thing to do nowadays.
Is it because of the need of saving money?
In part, but also to make a distinctive identity from the rest.

Personally, I am liking the new look from what has been seen so far. They're going for a "BBC Anything" style system, and they manage to make the brands distinctive without compromising it. Glad they're also retaining their longtime logo (unlike what TV 2 did last year), even redrawing it to fit smaller sizings, and making every of the elements (not just the dot, as it was imagined by Kemistry when tweaking the logo in 1999/2000) a part of the overall brand system.

In case the video isn't handy for you, here's how the broadcaster's main brands will look like (except P3, which might retain its distinctive branding, although tweaked, only time will tell).

[Image: NRK.png]

Did you make the image yourself or did you get it from a source?

I made the image by myself, thanks for asking. The radio logos were taken from the SVG image in the page, and the TV logos from the video.
The new typeface is nice (and yeah, it does look a bit like Reith), but I'm not a fan of the new NRK logos at all. The current 'circle' logos are quite distinctive, in my opinion, though the numeral forms could use some work. These new logos, while they unify some of the brands which didn't have circular logos (particularly on radio), sort of suck the life out of the entire brand. The surrounding presentation elements are going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting to make this look decent.
Reith can be easily used as new font for NRK channels and services. However, given that the font was easily copyrighted and cannot be used by non-BBC broadcasters, NRK partnered with Typotheque to creating the bespoke font used for themselves.
(25-04-2022, 12:22 AM)benzj Wrote: The new typeface is nice (and yeah, it does look a bit like Reith), but I'm not a fan of the new NRK logos at all. The current 'circle' logos are quite distinctive, in my opinion, though the numeral forms could use some work. These new logos, while they unify some of the brands which didn't have circular logos (particularly on radio), sort of suck the life out of the entire brand. The surrounding presentation elements are going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting to make this look decent.
Maybe the circles were nice, but the font gives it a sense of comfort for the company. Plus, there was no brand unification between the channels and radio networks. We'll just see how it will be applied in movement.
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(18-04-2022, 10:31 AM)W. Knight Wrote:
(06-01-2022, 06:49 PM)W. Knight Wrote: WETA (PBS in Washington DC) quietly sprayed a new coat of paint on their ribbon symbol, albeit not as fresh.
...and here's their anthem, used as a sonic identity in the production slates:

Sonic identity developed by Stephen Arnold Music. The new ribbon symbol and the accompanying brand elements were designed in-house by WETA's creative services department, led by Dylan Wilbur, as part of a modernization project WETA is embarking in their Arlington, VA headquarters, as well as the new PBS brand by Lippincott, and increasing fears that the 1997 logo was running into visibility concerns. The television branding was designed by... guess who... RenderOn.

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(29-04-2022, 03:23 PM)Medianext.MX Wrote:
(18-04-2022, 10:31 AM)W. Knight Wrote:
(06-01-2022, 06:49 PM)W. Knight Wrote: WETA (PBS in Washington DC) quietly sprayed a new coat of paint on their ribbon symbol, albeit not as fresh.
...and here's their anthem, used as a sonic identity in the production slates:

Sonic identity developed by Stephen Arnold Music. The new ribbon symbol and the accompanying brand elements were designed in-house by WETA's creative services department, led by Dylan Wilbur, as part of a modernization project WETA is embarking in their Arlington, VA headquarters, as well as the new PBS brand by Lippincott, and increasing fears that the 1997 logo was running into visibility concerns. The television branding was designed by... guess who... RenderOn.

More from NewscastStudio.
A fascinating read on the deisgn process. Judging by the logo concepts, I think there're some modern and fresh ideas in the bunch. For instance, the condensed san-serif one in the third row integrates the ribbon better, while the third one from the first row's font kinda reminds me of PBS' pre-2019 serif wordmark. 

Alas, this is a public channel, where they can't splash all their resources on a slightly more impressive look. IMO, the close relations with educational instituions sets the rebrand back to a traditional style. Still, they didn't slouch in other parts of the rebrand - I like the palette and layout in the WETA UK slide, in spite of the new tiled-crown symbol.
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Hello, and this is theduytv, reporting from VMA's Saigon hub... after two months of busy-ness.

Recently the Vietnamese media hobbyists are arguing and concerning about the future of VTV6, being known as the first Vietnamese TV channel dedicated to young audiences (akin to BBC3). 

It had a very rough start. Originated as a plan of VTV (which also included VTV7 8 and 9, which would not launched until much later - although 9 was launched in 2007 as a Saigon-centric television channel) in 2005, drafts for a "youth channel" would began in late 2006. Experimental transmission of 6 began during mid-April 2007 via the VCTV10 channel (of VTV's cable cousin, which has since rebranded as VTVCab) with programming loop, it began broadcast programming from noon of 29th April, with a limited broadcasting time, only from noon to midnight daily. Despite that limited resources, it quickly became very attractive with younger viewers at that time, which had been accustomed to cable TV channels from aboard (with foreign programming) for a time. The creativity of the channel was always showed off, from format, programming, to even graphics and imaging (some of their graphics back then, especially from 2010 - 12, could made you thought that 6 was not a VTV-owned network, as it had a radically different presentation when comparing to the other five networks (or three, terrestrially). VTV would began toned down the presentational style of 6 began in mid-2012).

As the popularity of the channel skyrocketed, as the demand for wider distribution of channel. VTV would install low-powered transmitters in Hanoi, then in Saigon (in 2009), but since it had even lower radiated power than those of 3 (it was also distributed on UHF band too), it could only be received in metropolitan parts of them. As a gift to celebrate the launch of VTV6 transmitters in Saigon, 6 began broadcasting "Nắng phương Nam" (rough. "Sunny South") for a time. It was also the original home of Vietnam Idol, and produced "Cầu vồng" ("The Rainbow"), a contest to find the "next-generation presenters" working for VTV (through the winners would later mostly presented programs for 6 only).

Many local/provincial TV stations, after using VTV2 as a sustaining service during most of the 2000s, would began using VTV6 for this purpose after coverage of VTV2 was further strengthened (as a way to serve football fans, as it was one of the two VTV networks for Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010, the other being VTV3). Stations in the Northern Mountain regions continued doing this until they were beamed to satellite during 2014/15, expanding timeslots - therefore negating the need of a sustaining service.

The channel began to finally grew up in 2010: To celebrating 40 years of Vietnam's national public television broadcaster, VTV6 began to be beamed on satellite, as well as on national pay-tv systems across the country. Along that, more low-powered transmitters (with viewable area were only dozens of kilometers) began to be installed across the country. At the same time, it began to expand it's broadcast time: now they would woke up from 6AM, although when this came to effect, they mostly repeated the yesterday programming - full programming on daytime would began in January 2011). Most of the programs from the launch were kept, but new programs would appear during this period - one of them was Studio V6 (which would later evolved into Ghế không tựa) - a talk show interviewing famous celebrities with audiences surrounding, much akin to Western-style talk shows, and Sinh ra từ làng (Born from the village), a program highlighting young people investing works in rural regions for a better life, and contributing for a better rural Vietnam. At the same time, it debuted the "V6" icon - a two-fingers-like icon, replaced the original VTV6 logo in all of their graphics, with the original logo being confined to solely bug.

Forwards to 2012 and VTV6 was at age 5. As a "birthday celebration", VTV began to drastically reformat the channel. Gone were the unique, creative imaging and most of the original programs from 2007, now they got a more uniformed logo - albeit with "6" still in the sky blue color till this day, and, to acknowledge the "uniqueness" of being the youth channel, they hired a British studio to made a-full-of-graffiti graphics to them. New programs were injected, including a strip timeslot of comedy programming, as well as the return of the legendary "Những bông hoa nhỏ" (Tiny Flowers) brand for children programming. Gameshows that came from VTV3 would also being occasionally aired on this channel since that point. Sports programming, though still occasionally aired on this channel at that time, would began creeped more into 6's schedules in later years.

In October 2013, the channel launched HD feed (initially for pay-TV subscribers only). This made VTV6 the second channel within VTV family to have an HD feed, following VTV3 in March. Beginning from 2014, the channel saw major reforms in programming that saw most of the programs before that period ceased producing, or reformatted to other names. With that, one of the network's new anchor shows, Bữa trưa vui vẻ (Happy Lunch) began, a program that immediately caused popularity among viewers with a mix of chat, music, fun, and social media interaction. With hundreds, or even thousands, of comments on every live session, the program was a major success for VTV6 in its later years. It also saw a spinoff - Chung cư 22+ (The 22+ apartment) - a late night edition of the "parent" show. Sitcom such as 5S Online (later relaunched as 5Plus Online) and primetime show Hôm nay ai đến? (Who's coming today?), which interviews the lives of ordinary people - were also gaining traction among, but not limited to, younger viewers. During this period, more transmitters were installed to cover more people to watch VTV6 via antenna - but this would be curtail very soon as the analogue switch-off would began in mid-2016. By 2015, the channel began to change graphics, and from that point, over the years, their graphics became more align in style with the rest of VTV channels.

However, the success didn't last so long. In 2018, the channel attempted to relaunch as a "Digital generation channel" - targeting young viewers, who, by this point, became more accustomed to social media and online platforms (which include the growing streaming TV market), rather than traditional TV. Modelled after the success of Bữa trưa vui vẻ (that program was also subjected to reformatting after the channel's refocus), several programs on VTV6 were slightly modified, and the channel's news service (which has been running since day 1, and has its name changed a few time) became known as Thế hệ số (Digital generation) until its demise in October 2021.

The relaunch, however, began to be seen as a failure: later that same year of the relaunch, Who's coming today? ended after two years, and VTV6's programming quality began to lose gradually. Sports programming began transferring from the "traditional" home, VTV3, to VTV6, including VTV's flagship sports news program, 360 độ thể thao (360 degrees of sports) (which also means moving timeslots from traditional late afternoon to 10PM).

In early 2020, the 2018 graphics was also dropped too. The same year, coronavirus caused many programs on VTV6 to stop broadcasting temporarily, and, at one point, among the channels of VTV that had to stop broadcasting overnight. Happy Lunch began to only aired live for three days a week, with the rest were "best of" episodes. Throughout 2020 and 2021, most of the programs on VTV6 stopped broadcasting, and VTV6 were increasingly producing programs for other channels within the VTV family.

During 2021, VTV6 launched several new shows, but all of them had ceased producing by the end of the same year due to gradual cutbacks. After Euro 2020, more sports programming were added into schedule, with the rest consisting of programs from other VTV channels and repeats of old episodes. Core viewership were declining as they moved online (like Tiktok, Netflix, ...)

On 29th October 2021, the last Digital Generation bulletin aired, officially closing the news service of VTV6 after 14 years. 

On 31st March 2022, the last Happy Lunch was aired. Since then "best of" episodes was aired on that timeslot to this day. As a result, all but one non-sports programming produced for VTV6 had been ceased broadcasting, or just repeating old episodes.

VTV6 didn't acknowledge much about their 15th anniversary in late April 2022, other than a small post on their Facebook page (this is a contrast to previous birthday celebrations). Many former personalities working for VTV6 wrote their status that hinted the possible closure of the channel.

Today, 2nd May of 2022, an anonymous person spammed on many journalists' facebook, saying that VTV6 is closing and to be replaced by the relaunch of VTV Cần Thơ (a channel targeting Southwestern audiences that would otherwise not watching other VTV channels, which tends to be Northern-centric. It broadcasts from Cần Thơ, the de facto capital of Southwestern Vietnam and had been closed since 2016 as it was integrated into VTV9, a move that caused outrage among Southwestern people). The spammer said that the relaunch of VTV Cần Thơ is purely of personal reasons, as the wife of the president of the VTV is from Cần Thơ, and having backing from local business, and the closure of a youth channel is "unacceptable".

This aroused rumors about the now-uncertain status of VTV6. With personalities confirmed about the liquidation process, however, the liquidation process is delayed because The all-new VTV Cần Thơ missed the launch date of 2nd May (because of licensing complications), with the launch date pushed back to September. Still, VTV6 would still air SEA Games (which is hosted in Vietnam this year) events live until 23rd May, then liquidation process could continue.

More updates soon.
Theduytv, from VMA Saigon, reporting to TVLive in London



Slovakia's largest commercial broadcaster, TV Markíza (owned by CME), is rebranding its entire network of channels very soon. The rebrand, revealed thanks to a leak by Slovak media news website MediaBoom, is reportedly being handled by next-door neighbour TV Nova, even identifying the use of Nova's proprietary font, Organica (drawn by Tomáš Brousil), on the main channel's word mark. The channel rebrand will also affect sister stations TV Doma and Dajto, renamed Markíza Doma and Markíza Dajto. It also coincides with the launch of a new sister station, Markíza Krimi, focusing on true crime and procedural series, set to launch in June.

With the rebrand, Markíza wants to reduce the ever-inching difference ratings-wise with rival TV JOJ, which has been beefing up its programming schedule with new original and foreign series and shows, the renewal of its cross-nation partnership with Prima, the launch of a central AVOD offering (JOJ Play) and the imminent launch of a news channel to rival long established channel TA3 and RTVS' shoe-string offering, which is replacing archive channel Trójka in a temporary basis, as it waits for its official license to broadcast as a stand-alone channel.

It also has a clear reminiscence of the other rebrands TV Nova has consulted and made for CME; first, their own rebrand, which renamed all networks into Nova networks and a standard brand identity in 2017; second, the rebrand they made for Pro TV in Romania, a rebrand which was heavily promoted, but which was ultimately unsuccessful, resulting on all channels regaining their individual identities during the last month.

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Those recent Seven Network idents seem to have a new mnemonic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz2tEU3Dd3Q

Could be wrong but I assume it's a newer version of their "One to Watch" jingle, only with a minor final note instead of a major-ish one
"HA HA HA! Cookies on dowels."
That's kind of old-ish news now, mentioned this last year-ish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RANZiEiAW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxynFElpoTo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KQaJmQ3R_M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qLwFYsdq-E
Funny thing: a lot of Seven's TV Man idents (like this one) were pretty plentiful on YouTube back when I was a young'un:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCR3FjPTfvw
Nowadays, finding 'em (in such reasonably high quality to boot) is like finding a needle in a haystack

I wonder why that happened
"HA HA HA! Cookies on dowels."
(09-05-2022, 09:44 PM)reworP wehttaM Wrote: Funny thing: a lot of Seven's TV Man idents (like this one) were pretty plentiful on YouTube back when I was a young'un:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCR3FjPTfvw
Nowadays, finding 'em (in such reasonably high quality to boot) is like finding a needle in a haystack

I wonder why that happened

I know that at least one Australian presentation YouTuber shut down their channel because they were effectively being threatened with a cease-and-desist from the Nine Network; it's possible the broadcasters have tightened down somewhat on the practice. That said, there are still a few channels still up that keep at least some track of things down there (though I agree, it's not what it used to be).
Guessing from memory, it was probably SydneyCityTV Videos

Major shame he had that cease-and-desist too, Seven probably has the most archive-worthy bunch of idents as of recent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V20K0yap7ek
(I'd also wager removing the offending videos might also work, but I'm not sure what the videos were that got Nine so irritated (Maybe it was all those news broadcasts?))
"HA HA HA! Cookies on dowels."


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