Disney Film Premiers Free to Air

[shropshireguy28]

Hello, does anyone know what the Disney film deal is to free to air TV now. Now that Disney plus is a thing a films that are released in the cinema still likely to be on Free to air TV that are made by Disney

[Neil Jones]

Hello, does anyone know what the Disney film deal is to free to air TV now. Now that Disney plus is a thing a films that are released in the cinema still likely to be on Free to air TV that are made by Disney

Almost certainly still going to be a thing for the foreseeable future. Mary Poppins still shows up on the BBC on occasion, duration depends on how long they bought airing rights for (some of which may pre-date Disney+ by many years). Same for other broadcasters. Some may have blanket agreements for certain films/bundles - some Disney stuff turns up on occasion on Sky Cinema as a new premiere, though this is beginning to drop off.

Note that it is still entirely plausible that a programme made for a streaming service can still appear outside of it. This has happened at least once with an Amazon Prime Original programme. A Boy Called Christmas was a Netflix original but has ended up on Sky Cinema in the UK.

[Dogorilla]

I brought this up in another thread the other day. I would have thought Disney films would continue to arrive on Freeview a few years after the cinema release, and indeed Mary Poppins Returns is showing this Christmas. However there are other films like Incredibles 2 and The Last Jedi (correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think those have been on FTA TV yet) that I would have expected to be shown by this year but they aren't.

Now I've noticed Disney is heavily promoting the Disney+ Christmas line-up this year, so all I can think is that maybe they've decided to delay most of the FTA premieres of their films until after the Christmas period because they want Disney+ to be the place to go for Disney films over Christmas. Perhaps they believe that Coco being on BBC One last Christmas Day took some of the wind out of the sails of Soul premiering on Disney+ on the same day.

[TIGHazard]

Hello, does anyone know what the Disney film deal is to free to air TV now. Now that Disney plus is a thing a films that are released in the cinema still likely to be on Free to air TV that are made by Disney

Almost certainly still going to be a thing for the foreseeable future. Mary Poppins still shows up on the BBC on occasion, duration depends on how long they bought airing rights for (some of which may pre-date Disney+ by many years). Same for other broadcasters. Some may have blanket agreements for certain films/bundles - some Disney stuff turns up on occasion on Sky Cinema as a new premiere, though this is beginning to drop off.

Note that it is still entirely plausible that a programme made for a streaming service can still appear outside of it. This has happened at least once with an Amazon Prime Original programme. A Boy Called Christmas was a Netflix original but has ended up on Sky Cinema in the UK.

Netflix's Eurovision movie also turned up on a bunch of EBU affiliated broadcasters this year. I suspect if it does air here in the UK it would be on the BBC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision...ga#Release

[Dogorilla]

On the topic of streaming originals turning up on free-to-air TV, possibly the strangest example is BoJack Horseman airing on DMAX in 2019. To be fair, DMAX is owned by Discovery, a pretty big company, but I'm still not quite sure how an obscure channel that shows mainly factual programmes got the rights to show one of Netflix's flagship comedies.

[Neil Jones]

Wiki suggests Comedy Central (in the US) "acquired exclusive linear television syndication rights to BoJack Horseman; making it the first Netflix original to be syndicated to cable television in the United States", so it's appearance on DMAX is probably off the back of its success, it is regarded (it says here) as one of the best animated shows ever.

Though I suppose its probably safe to assume Stranger Things won't be appearing out side of Netflix any time soon, at least not until a few years after it ends its run.

I'm not really sure how things work with Netflix/Prime Originals syndication wise, from what I can make out a lot of them are indie productions from the off (Stranger Things is made by Shawn Levy's company for one thing). It all seems similar to the Channel 4 model.

[Dogorilla]

Wiki suggests Comedy Central (in the US) "acquired exclusive linear television syndication rights to BoJack Horseman; making it the first Netflix original to be syndicated to cable television in the United States", so it's appearance on DMAX is probably off the back of its success, it is regarded (it says here) as one of the best animated shows ever.

Though I suppose its probably safe to assume Stranger Things won't be appearing out side of Netflix any time soon, at least not until a few years after it ends its run.

I'm not really sure how things work with Netflix/Prime Originals syndication wise, from what I can make out a lot of them are indie productions from the off (Stranger Things is made by Shawn Levy's company for one thing). It all seems similar to the Channel 4 model.

I think Netflix (and other streaming services) are missing a trick by not allowing more of their older shows to be syndicated. I subscribed to Netflix for a while a couple of years ago primarily because I'd watched the first season and a half of The Good Place on E4 and wanted to watch the rest of it straight away. If Stranger Things was shown on linear TV now with a gap of a year or so between seasons, I imagine quite a few people would be encouraged to get Netflix to see the newer episodes.

[Neil Jones]

I think Netflix (and other streaming services) are missing a trick by not allowing more of their older shows to be syndicated. I subscribed to Netflix for a while a couple of years ago primarily because I'd watched the first season and a half of The Good Place on E4 and wanted to watch the rest of it straight away. If Stranger Things was shown on linear TV now with a gap of a year or so between seasons, I imagine quite a few people would be encouraged to get Netflix to see the newer episodes.

Well yes but Netflix/Disney/Prime all thrive on regular/returning business. If it happens that Stranger Things turns up on Channel 4 for example on a year's delay, then there's no point subscribing to Netflix at all even for one month if you're happy to wait for it in the knowledge its going to come. We saw the opposite of this with Lost, as Channel 4/E4/somewhere 4 had the first two seasons and then Sky hoovered it up for the rest of the run. AFAIK season 3 onwards have never been on FTA TV in the UK, though its turned up on Star via Disney+.

I can only assume the likes of Stranger Things are exclusive distribution to Netflix for x years (probably at least a decade or two for ST considering its one of their shows that made the service popular), and then after that its no longer exclusive - Netflix and somewhere else.

[Brekkie]

I think like with most services Netflix both producer their own content and acquire content from independent producers, but there have certainly been a few example in the past where with the latter the exclusivity period after Netflix axed a series is quite lengthy, making it virtually impossible to get picked up elsewhere, and similarly I guess delays any screening of previous Netflix series too.

[Dogorilla]

Well yes but Netflix/Disney/Prime all thrive on regular/returning business. If it happens that Stranger Things turns up on Channel 4 for example on a year's delay, then there's no point subscribing to Netflix at all even for one month if you're happy to wait for it in the knowledge its going to come. We saw the opposite of this with Lost, as Channel 4/E4/somewhere 4 had the first two seasons and then Sky hoovered it up for the rest of the run. AFAIK season 3 onwards have never been on FTA TV in the UK, though its turned up on Star via Disney+.

True but I think it might work as a way of bringing in people who wouldn't have considered subscribing to a streaming service before, while also making money for Netflix (or whoever) from the channel paying for the FTA rights. If people got invested in a show on TV and there was the option to pay a certain amount to immediately watch three more seasons of it with no ads and no waiting time between episodes, I think quite a few people would be interested. On the other hand, we may be at the point now where everyone who's able to use streaming services is aware of them and would probably already consider using one if they're remotely interested in anything on it. And I'm sure Netflix et al know what they're doing and have a better idea of what will make them the most money than I do.

I do wish streaming services were less protective of their original shows and would release them on DVD or linear TV after a period of exclusivity, but that's more just my personal preference and might not necessarily make actually good business sense.

[Newshound47]

Well yes but Netflix/Disney/Prime all thrive on regular/returning business. If it happens that Stranger Things turns up on Channel 4 for example on a year's delay, then there's no point subscribing to Netflix at all even for one month if you're happy to wait for it in the knowledge its going to come. We saw the opposite of this with Lost, as Channel 4/E4/somewhere 4 had the first two seasons and then Sky hoovered it up for the rest of the run. AFAIK season 3 onwards have never been on FTA TV in the UK, though its turned up on Star via Disney+.

True but I think it might work as a way of bringing in people who wouldn't have considered subscribing to a streaming service before, while also making money for Netflix (or whoever) from the channel paying for the FTA rights. If people got invested in a show on TV and there was the option to pay a certain amount to immediately watch three more seasons of it with no ads and no waiting time between episodes, I think quite a few people would be interested. On the other hand, we may be at the point now where everyone who's able to use streaming services is aware of them and would probably already consider using one if they're remotely interested in anything on it. And I'm sure Netflix et al know what they're doing and have a better idea of what will make them the most money than I do.

I do wish streaming services were less protective of their original shows and would release them on DVD or linear TV after a period of exclusivity, but that's more just my personal preference and might not necessarily make actually good business sense.

Some streaming programmes are released on DVD. The Crown is.

[Dogorilla]

Some streaming programmes are released on DVD. The Crown is.

Yeah, there are a few, which is good. I just kind of wish it was more of a standard practice so people can have a choice of how they want to watch these programmes, but I suppose it's not financially justified in many cases. I'm hoping one day DVDs will come back into fashion like vinyl, and then there'll be retroactive physical releases of all the big streaming originals!

[Neil Jones]

. I'm hoping one day DVDs will come back into fashion like vinyl

DVDs haven't gone out of fashion. They're just not "hot" at this time. And no, that's not because of burning

*ahem*

I'll get my coat.:

[Brekkie]

So is a Spiderman film on BBC1 last night and a premiere on BBC1 on Friday a sign the distributors (think it is Sony rather than Disney in this case) still value the traditional medium of television, or basically just getting the BBC to pay them for two two-hour long ads for the new film out at the cinema this week?

A mutually beneficial arrangement I think. The need of these big franchises to keep their product in the public eye and give them a push ahead of new movie releases, as we also saw with Venom premiering on C4 just ahead of Venom 2 in the cinema) is seemingly greater than the benefits of exclusive deals with the streamers.