The Great! TV Thread
#91
To be honest if you're that interested in some archive TV narrative material you wouldn't wait for some TV channel somewhere to start airing it, you'd have bought the DVD(s) for them by now. Anything mainstream/popular enough at the time/still available is almost certainly out on home media, and if it isn't, its probably on YouTube as an off-air recording.

This has the effect of reducing channels to airing stuff that's very unlikely if ever to get a DVD release in their original form.
#92
Although DVDs are virtually impossible to buy from a physical shop at least now I suspect some of the streaming restrictions around many archive shows means there is still a bit of value in that market for older TV shows.
@Brekkietweets
#93
Brekkie post_id=57426 time= user_id=976 Wrote:Although DVDs are virtually impossible to buy from a physical shop

Are they?
#94
Around here you get a handful in the local supermarkets and I think there is just one store in the market and CEX in town.
@Brekkietweets
#95
Brekkie post_id=57426 time= user_id=976 Wrote:Although DVDs are virtually impossible to buy from a physical shop at least now I suspect some of the streaming restrictions around many archive shows means there is still a bit of value in that market for older TV shows.

There's a DVD shop near me.
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#96
Brekkie post_id=57450 time= user_id=976 Wrote:Around here you get a handful in the local supermarkets and I think there is just one store in the market and CEX in town.

So your claim of "DVDs being virtually impossible to buy from physical shops" was wrong then, unless you think a supermarket is not a physical building.
The way you were talking seemed to imply the supply of the blank media had dried up altogether and that was not the case.
#97
"Virtually" being the key word there Neil. A couple of dozen titles available in supermarkets is a long way from where we were a decade ago. It's really noticeable at this time of year especially how much physical media has declined.


Anyway, we digrese... but on a similar theme Narrative Entertainment themselves stated they wanted to launch their own on demand service for the content when they took over the Sony Channels. Have they said anymore publicly about that?
@Brekkietweets
#98
Brekkie post_id=57497 time= user_id=976 Wrote:"Virtually" being the key word there Neil. A couple of dozen titles available in supermarkets is a long way from where we were a decade ago. It's really noticeable at this time of year especially how much physical media has declined.


Anyway, we digrese... but on a similar theme Narrative Entertainment themselves stated they wanted to launch their own on demand service for the content when they took over the Sony Channels. Have they said anymore publicly about that?

Not yet, to my knowledge, but a streaming service does sound nice. We already have the POP Player, but something for GREAT! would be nice (but then again, if they refuse to license more shows/movies for the channel, the streaming service will be very small and only have a couple stuff on it).

Kind of a shame TV channels are dying nowadays, I miss back when they had variety, and I'd do anything to change that. Talking Pictures TV thankfully still cares about their TV channels, so at least they're copping on. Why can't GREAT! be like them? Caring about their adult audience.
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#99
Brekkie post_id=57450 time= user_id=976 Wrote:Around here you get a handful in the local supermarkets and I think there is just one store in the market and CEX in town.
No HMV where you are then?
Brekkie post_id=57497 time= user_id=976 Wrote:"Virtually" being the key word there Neil. A couple of dozen titles available in supermarkets is a long way from where we were a decade ago. It's really noticeable at this time of year especially how much physical media has declined.

Really?
I can see "1-12 of over 90,000 results for DVD & Blu-ray" at Amazon. Even assuming a chunk are duplicates of the same title, that's still a significant number (assuming only 1/3 of this is unique titles, that's still 30k which is more than Prime itself has)

Physical DVD is not going away. They said videotape (and vinyl for that matter) was dead years ago. Vinyl came back, Cassette came back. It can probably only be a matter of time before videotape comes back (and indeed it is: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2...e-vhs-tape )

Claiming physical media doesn't exist just because you can't find it up the back of Waitrose while shopping for your lobster and caviar doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Not sure why you're getting so hung up on an aside - and I never claimed you couldn't get them online. And I get my caviar from Aldi thank you very much. Big Grin


Worldwide sales have dropped more than 80% in a decade, and this report blames the drop in the UK as much on the collapse of the high street as it does on Netflix, which is all I was highlighting in my anecdotal evidence from my own experience, and suggesting that as a result perhaps the market in archive TV channels is a bit more resilient than it might be, especially as older shows often struggle to clear the legal hurdles to be streamed.
@Brekkietweets
I'd say if a TV show/movie isn't on streaming or TV, just get the Region 2 DVD of it. If it's not on Region 2 DVD either, guess it's time to get a region free DVD player.
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nionlogos18 post_id=57727 time= user_id=2151 Wrote:I'd say if a TV show/movie isn't on streaming or TV, just get the Region 2 DVD of it. If it's not on Region 2 DVD either, guess it's time to get a region free DVD player.

Or Google the model of the R2 player you already have find out what to do to make it region free Wink
nionlogos18 post_id=57389 time= user_id=2151 Wrote:Shame. US has lots of classic TV channels like MeTV, Decades, Antenna TV, Rewind TV, etc. while here apart from a few couple shows there's nothing.

Neil Jones post_id=57400 time= user_id=961 Wrote:Also its been demonstrated many times archive programming just doesn't rate in this country outside of a handful of core shows/material. Channels that decide to air archive material tend to drop it shortly afterwards in favour of newer material. Networks that exclusively only show old films are one thing and thrive happily (usually because they're cheap to buy/licence) but old TV costs money to licence and if the incoming dosh doesn't pay the bills, it will be replaced with something else. Usually newer.

I think it's also probably important to note that the television landscape in the US is markedly different than that in the UK -- even now, over a decade after our digital transition, due to the way our broadcast television system is set up, you're probably only likely to get about 20 to 30 channels tops in most areas of the country (compared to the absolutely bulging Freeview lineup). Even when you factor in the difference in population size between the countries, the over-the-air audience is spread far less thinly here. Multiplying that by the around 200 television markets in the US makes classics seem a bit more viable as a genre (though MeTV also somewhat served as a pioneer in that regard as well, leading to the launch of Antenna TV, Decades, and so on).
Thank god GREAT! Christmas is going soon. Have had enough with Call Me Claus airing 20,000 times a week.
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