I was born in 1986 and one of my first memories is actually the ending of Moaning Lisa when Bleeding Gums sings Lisa's song in the Jazz Restaurant. I think this may of been its actual first airing on SKY One. So this maybe 1990 or 91?
I also remember a vague memory of The Simpsons some episodes being a rental exclusive on VHS and being very excited when the local rental store had a yearly sale and sold me one which I am not sure if they should of. I guess this may of been 1993 or 94.
I still have my original The Simpsons Sing the Blues CD.
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remlap post_id=44209 time= user_id=997 Wrote:I was born in 1986 and one of my first memories is actually the ending of Moaning Lisa when Bleeding Gums sings Lisa's song in the Jazz Restaurant. I think this may of been its actual first airing on SKY One. So this maybe 1990 or 91?
I also remember a vague memory of The Simpsons some episodes being a rental exclusive on VHS and being very excited when the local rental store had a yearly sale and sold me one which I am not sure if they should of. I guess this may of been 1993 or 94.
I still have my original The Simpsons Sing the Blues CD. 1990, it aired in the US in February that year - the series having started in December 1989 - and Sky started airing the show in September 1990. So that episode should've aired in October or November.
TIGHazard post_id=44204 time= user_id=904 Wrote:Steve Williams post_id=44197 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:Larry the Loafer post_id=44194 time= user_id=990 Wrote:I'm assuming there were VHS releases before the BBC took the terrestrial rights but I've never found any solid information on when the first ones were released.
There were indeed, and the Simpsons Wiki suggests the first four were released in October 1991 - https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/The_Simpsons_Collection
We got two for Christmas that year, the Call Of The Simpsons and Life In The Fast Lane videos, two episodes per tape you note, so I got to know those four episodes very well. We didn't have any of the other videos, though, too much else on our Christmas and birthday lists.
The rest of the time we got our Simpsons fix by going to my sister's friend's house, the only person we knew who had Sky, which seemed to be how most other kids saw it those days. I remember going there a few times, I vividly remember watching Lisa The Greek there, that would have been early 1992. As you say, everything else was via the endless spin-offs, I had a Simpsons Diary in 1992 when I'd probably have seen less than a dozen episodes.
The other Simpsons VHS releases were a series that started in 1999, this was the first one - https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/The_Simpso...Hot_For_TV
I bought pretty much all of those because they were a valuable source of Sky episodes that were years away from coming on the Beeb. I remember being massively disappointed when one of them featured four episodes that had already been on the Beeb, but I still bought it anyway to continue the collection.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure that the version of The Cartridge Family on that VHS had a warning at the start that said something like "This episode is not to be broadcast on a BBC channel until 1/1/2000" or something like that (It may have also had a VT clock).
PD post_id=42718 time= user_id=1887 Wrote:I'm sure I remember The Simpsons appearing on Live & Kicking for a brief period during the Emma & Steve series
Also a thing I recently found out is that Live & Kicking wasn't the only time CBBC broadcast The Simpsons. According to Genome, during the 2002 Commonwealth Games it also aired there.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/c7c4c3f224d0...ec769931ad
It took Sky a long time to show The Cartridge Family. From memory they were scheduled to show it either late in 1997 or early 1998, but that never happened, and I’m not sure a proper reason was given for it either.
Going back to the VHS releases, I remember buying The Dark Secrets of The Simpsons back in 1997. This was their first big release after the BBC began showing the programme. They were also cashing on the hype around the X Files crossover episode too. For someone who was new to the show at that time that didn’t have Sky then, it was very strange seeing an almost new episode on VHS. From memory there was a good gap between that and the next VHS release, but not 6 years unlike the former.
The really strange thing about the Cartridge Family is the BBC seemingly had no issues showing it uncut even though Sky had been refusing to show it altogether for years.
Though Sky themselves were excessively snippy with the show for years anyway. Channel 4 seem to have taken over that mantle though, they seem to cut bits out now that Sky were leaving in during their scissor happy days. One of the strangest was when T4 showed the "this is where you register as a sex offender" bit from Trash of The Titans as part of a "coming up" sting, but it was actually cut from the episode itself (this was after a previous showing of said episode had gone out uncut, with both uses of the word "wankers"- which got Channel 4's knuckles rapped- I wonder if that was the catalyst for Channel 4's overly cautious editing. That and putting out the uncut version of A Streetcar Named Marge days after Hurricane Katrina- which led to Katrina related cuts in various episodes going out for years).
TIGHazard post_id=44204 time= user_id=904 Wrote:Also a thing I recently found out is that Live & Kicking wasn't the only time CBBC broadcast The Simpsons. According to Genome, during the 2002 Commonwealth Games it also aired there.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/c7c4c3f224d0...ec769931ad
I remember this, but although it was billed in the Radio Times as being part of CBBC, it actually wasn't, and it was introduced by a proper BBC2 ident.
Of course, one odd Simpsons screening on BBC2 was when they showed The Trouble With Trillions as part of Cuba Night in January 1999, years before they showed the rest of that season and only nine months after it was first shown in the US. I read somewhere the Beeb got special permission to show it, though they certainly didn't shout about it and it seems a bit of an elaborate idea for an otherwise unrelated theme night. You note as well the episode synopsis is completely incorrect as it doesn't describe what happens in the episode at all.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/se...2#at-20.05
Funnily enough a week later they showed another US sitcom episode ages before the rest, they showed the Seinfeld episode The Betrayal, the famous backwards one, as part of a season of programmes about time. This was from Season 9, when they were still halfway through Season 6 on the Beeb. They then showed it again as part of Season 9 when they got that far in 2001, making it as far as I know the only Seinfeld episode the Beeb ever showed more than once.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/72df753b49e5...b634672fc1
nwtv2003 post_id=44221 time= user_id=1028 Wrote:It took Sky a long time to show The Cartridge Family. From memory they were scheduled to show it either late in 1997 or early 1998, but that never happened, and I’m not sure a proper reason was given for it either.
Going back to the VHS releases, I remember buying The Dark Secrets of The Simpsons back in 1997. This was their first big release after the BBC began showing the programme. They were also cashing on the hype around the X Files crossover episode too. For someone who was new to the show at that time that didn’t have Sky then, it was very strange seeing an almost new episode on VHS. From memory there was a good gap between that and the next VHS release, but not 6 years unlike the former.
Actually I'd forgotten that the Dark Secrets one the first one, as you say it was rushed out because of the X Files crossover and was very exciting for having "new" episodes on it. The Too Hot For TV video included The Cartridge Family, as you suggest, which was the first time it was available anywhere in the UK as Sky didn't show it, but as mentioned the Beeb had no problem with it at all and showed it in the regular slot with all the others, making it the only episode to premiere on the BBC rather than Sky.
Steve Williams post_id=44232 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:TIGHazard post_id=44204 time= user_id=904 Wrote:Also a thing I recently found out is that Live & Kicking wasn't the only time CBBC broadcast The Simpsons. According to Genome, during the 2002 Commonwealth Games it also aired there.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/c7c4c3f224d0...ec769931ad
I remember this, but although it was billed in the Radio Times as being part of CBBC, it actually wasn't, and it was introduced by a proper BBC2 ident.
Of course, one odd Simpsons screening on BBC2 was when they showed The Trouble With Trillions as part of Cuba Night in January 1999, years before they showed the rest of that season and only nine months after it was first shown in the US. I read somewhere the Beeb got special permission to show it, though they certainly didn't shout about it and it seems a bit of an elaborate idea for an otherwise unrelated theme night. You note as well the episode synopsis is completely incorrect as it doesn't describe what happens in the episode at all.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/se...2#at-20.05
Funnily enough a week later they showed another US sitcom episode ages before the rest, they showed the Seinfeld episode The Betrayal, the famous backwards one, as part of a season of programmes about time. This was from Season 9, when they were still halfway through Season 6 on the Beeb. They then showed it again as part of Season 9 when they got that far in 2001, making it as far as I know the only Seinfeld episode the Beeb ever showed more than once.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/72df753b49e5...b634672fc1
nwtv2003 post_id=44221 time= user_id=1028 Wrote:It took Sky a long time to show The Cartridge Family. From memory they were scheduled to show it either late in 1997 or early 1998, but that never happened, and I’m not sure a proper reason was given for it either.
Going back to the VHS releases, I remember buying The Dark Secrets of The Simpsons back in 1997. This was their first big release after the BBC began showing the programme. They were also cashing on the hype around the X Files crossover episode too. For someone who was new to the show at that time that didn’t have Sky then, it was very strange seeing an almost new episode on VHS. From memory there was a good gap between that and the next VHS release, but not 6 years unlike the former.
Actually I'd forgotten that the Dark Secrets one the first one, as you say it was rushed out because of the X Files crossover and was very exciting for having "new" episodes on it. The Too Hot For TV video included The Cartridge Family, as you suggest, which was the first time it was available anywhere in the UK as Sky didn't show it, but as mentioned the Beeb had no problem with it at all and showed it in the regular slot with all the others, making it the only episode to premiere on the BBC rather than Sky. We had Springfield Murder Mysteries in our house, which I remember watching when I was like three years old. Very strange they started releasing "new" episodes on tape after they were shown on Sky One, especially when The Simpsons Collection only covered S1-3 episodes, there was also a third release called Crime and Punishment, released the same day as Springfield Murder Mysteries in November 1997.
Back to SMM, I remember it had the two parter Who Shot Mr. Burns? and also two Sideshow Bob episodes, Black Widower and Cape Feare.
The one I remember most fondly is Bart Wars: The Simpsons Strike Back, released in 1999, it had Mayored to the Mob from Season 10, Dog of Death from Season 3, The Secret War of Lisa Simpson from Season 8 and Marge Not Be Proud from Season 7. Interestingly, the 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment logo on the tape was completely different to the print logo on the spine and back cover.
https://youtu.be/FlBYwuww5oE
We had Sex, Lies and The Simpsons, got it for Christmas 1997, got very used to those episodes.
James2001 post_id=44267 time= user_id=956 Wrote:We had Sex, Lies and The Simpsons, got it for Christmas 1997, got very used to those episodes. Pretty sure that wasn't released until April 1998.
Might have actually been my 12th birthday when I got it.
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I remember buying a Simpsons VHS (Yes those exist before someone calls me out) and an episode on that, might be the one where Homer applies for a gun license claimed "Not to be seen on TV before the year 2000"
Cassia Tuna post_id=44210 time= user_id=1506 Wrote:Such sloppy editing from Channel 4:
https://twitter.com/CrashFan03/status/14...0329988097
How it would have originally aired:
https://twitter.com/CrashFan03/status/14...4799586316
I remember being in a compliance induction way back when and The Simpsons was deemed a bit of a nightmare, as it had been marketed towards children in the UK despite being a PG/12 show for most of its run, which warranted the creative editing choices we see on C4 like this one.
Would the initial and then lingering marketing of The Simpsons as a kids (or at least a family) show have a long shadow over terrestrial networks being over-cautious (and in very inconsistent ways?), or is that a bit too spurious?
You'd think people would have picked up at this point that it's not a kid's show.
James2001 post_id=44305 time= user_id=956 Wrote:You'd think people would have picked up at this point that it's not a kid's show.
Even the BBC hasn't yet, and they aired it for years!
Quote:BBC seeks a ‘British Simpsons’ for children in homegrown animation drive
The BBC is seeking a “British Simpsons” for children in a drive to create home-grown animated series designed to counter the Americanisation of popular culture.
https://inews.co.uk/culture/bbc-seeks-uk...ive-887281
Thing is, The Simpsons has never been aimed at children. It's an animated sitcom, that children just so happen can enjoy as well. There's a reason why the show isn't airing on CBBC!
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Cassia Tuna post_id=44306 time= user_id=1506 Wrote:James2001 post_id=44305 time= user_id=956 Wrote:You'd think people would have picked up at this point that it's not a kid's show.
Even the BBC hasn't yet, and they aired it for years!
Quote:BBC seeks a ‘British Simpsons’ for children in homegrown animation drive
The BBC is seeking a “British Simpsons” for children in a drive to create home-grown animated series designed to counter the Americanisation of popular culture.
https://inews.co.uk/culture/bbc-seeks-uk...ive-887281
Thing is, The Simpsons has never been aimed at children. It's an animated sitcom, that children just so happen can enjoy as well. There's a reason why the show isn't airing on CBBC! Funnily enough, in the Philippines, it actually once aired on Cartoon Network! Apparently they were a lot of edits to keep it suitable for children.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CI62nUtFGnQ
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