ITV SD regional shutdown on satellite for some regions
#31
https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-TV/ITV-...-p/3661715

Sky have confirmed what is closing on satellite on Tuesday 13th April:-

SD channels:-
Anglia East,
Meridian South,
Yorkshire West,
Westcountry,
Tyne Tees,
West,
Central East

+1 channels:-
UTV+1 (NI viewers will get ITV+1 Granada instead)
ITV Be+1
#32
PFML84 post_id=4031 time=1617968452 user_id=1009 Wrote:https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-TV/ITV-...-p/3661715

Sky have confirmed what is closing on satellite on Tuesday 13th April:-

[SNIP]

+1 channels:-
UTV+1 (NI viewers will get ITV+1 Granada instead)
I imagine that particular closure might be seen as somewhat controversial, especially to those living in Northern Ireland.
Formerly 'Charlie Wells' of TVForum.
#33
Keith post_id=4157 time=1617972626 user_id=1115 Wrote:
PFML84 post_id=4031 time=1617968452 user_id=1009 Wrote:https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-TV/ITV-...-p/3661715

Sky have confirmed what is closing on satellite on Tuesday 13th April:-

[SNIP]

+1 channels:-
UTV+1 (NI viewers will get ITV+1 Granada instead)
I imagine that particular closure might be seen as somewhat controversial, especially to those living in Northern Ireland.

Considering the main UTV is largely an ITV branded channel these days, it shouldn't be that controversial. A few viewers expecting to see UTV Live and receive Granada Reports will be minimal. UTV post the bulletin on the ITV News website anyway.
#34
I expect so few people are watching it that there won't be any controversy. No confirmation of it closing on Freeview where the +1s are nowhere near as hidden as they are on Sky and where more people will be watching so chances are they're just saving a bit of cash on a satellite service few are watching, same with ITVBe+1.
#35
UTV has quite a lot if opt outs during the week, (Rare Breed, UTV Life, View from Stormont, UTV Up Close, Eamonn Mallie Face to Face, UTV Insight) etc with the Network programme usually after News at 10.

So by having Granada as the +1 feed, viewers in NI will see the network programme first on +1 before UTV main channel shows it!

I would have thought UTV+1 would have stayed being a Nation and not just an Engligh region which has a bigger neighbour region next to it so not a big deal if they get a different +1 feed.
"From today you'll hear some new voices when you're watching UTV, as for the time being we're handing over to our colleagues at ITV, but rest assured Julian and I will be back with you as soon as possible"
Gillian Porter, UTV (2nd April 2020; 5:59am)
#36
Yes, you'd think another region could have been sacrificed first if needs be and it doesn't feel the right time to be scaling back their commitment in NI. Yes, the audience is small granted (and perhaps more noteable ITVBe+1 is being sacrificed), but just seems a poor move. How many +1 variants of ITV are there now?
@Brekkietweets
#37
If they want to have the minimal +1’s then why not just have one for England, one for Wales and one for NI. The rest can close to save space for HD channels to launch.
#38
PFML84 post_id=4274 time=1617975591 user_id=1009 Wrote:If they want to have the minimal +1’s then why not just have one for England, one for Wales and one for NI.
Profit. Simple as that. There are more profitable regions that others and they're prioritised. +1 channels literally only exist to make profit, they're not a license obligation or anything like that.
#39
It's odd that the Granada region, which is a much smaller in size than NI, is more profitable.

I still think it's a bad decision and UTV+1 should at least be kept and perhaps another regions +1 closed.
#40
PFML84 post_id=4495 time=1617983044 user_id=1009 Wrote:It's odd that the Granada region, which is a much smaller in size than NI, is more profitable.
The North West has a population of over 7 million while NI has 1.8 million. The North West has a GDP of about £207bn while NI is £48bn.

So it's clear why Granada would be much more profitable.
#41
Fair enough, I was going by physical size alone... which doesn't matter as they say! Wink
#42
I am surprised about UTV +1. UTV +1 will still be available on Freeview in Northern Ireland of course.

I seem to remember that UTV +1 only appeared on satellite after the ITV plc takeover anyway, and there wasn’t another region available as a substitute in the past.

I think that the NI ads version of Channel 4 is the only one not to have a +1, on satellite at least.
#43
bkman1990 post_id=3431 time=1617744232 user_id=922 Wrote:Do ITV have plans in place to do more SD closures of their English regions in the near future with this news. I assuming that this arrangement on the closures will be taking place on transponders rented by ITV to SES. I heard from a news article recently that ITV & the BBC had retained a deal to keep their transponders in place for Astra satellite users in the UK & Ireland. ITV could close more SD in future & then have CITV & ITVBe converted to HD only within the next year or so because those channels are currently in SD only.

Also; ITV do currently have plans to start up an ITV UHD channel as well. But I am not sure if we will see that come to fruition in the UK maybe until within the next 2 years as the 2023 Rugby World Cup will be played in France.

There was a snooker UHD test by ITV, it came up as ITVHEVC, couldn’t get the video to work though :-(
#44
m_in_m post_id=3857 time=1617908922 user_id=1218 Wrote:
London Lite post_id=3787 time=1617888113 user_id=953 Wrote:Also worth noting that when Cambridge provide the pan-regional bulletins, viewers who receive Look East (East) from Norwich will get the news in HD, yet when it returns to Norwich output, it'll revert to upscaled SD.

STV Central has the same issue when STV North provide the bulletins, they get it in HD, but revert to upscaled SD when it comes from Glasgow.
Just the same as animating Aston's when Cambridge broadcast pan-regionally though it doesn't happen as often as I'd expected when Cambridge started broadcasting full 1830 programmes.

Unlike most the other BBC England regional centres, which are still using Aston Green hardware for gfx, Cambridge are using Viz, hence the difference..
#45
Markymark post_id=3726 time=1617871279 user_id=1078 Wrote:
roll_vt post_id=3719 time=1617868022 user_id=1387 Wrote:It's an ambitious target for the BBC to have regional HD by the end of 2022.. They have been working on various iterations of an HD gallery refresh project for the regional centres for at least the last 5 years. None of them have met the technical objectives fully, nor the ambition to allow regional news output to be produced with less technical staff - hence the delays

The BBC England technical infrastructure in the regional centres is almost exclusively SD still & at least 15 years old..

I'm taking the 2022 date as when BBC 1 HD be regionalised, (and thus you will be able to view your regional programme in upscaled SD, and not necessarily in HD) and NOT when all regions will be producing their programmes in HD

The regional centres currently opt themselves in & out of the network sustaining feed locally (in other words, the regional output of BBC 1 originates from each centre). The plan is to implement centralised opting (where the region controls the network switch remotely), but that project hasn't started rolling out yet either (to the best of my knowledge) - and this is the core of regional HD rollout.


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