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06-08-2021, 06:40 PM
I've seen bits of Nigel Farage's show on YouTube and while I don't agree with his politics or his views, he's a very good presenter and it's a shame that he has decided to continue with this type of programming rather than do a Portillo and branch out into non political type shows.
06-08-2021, 06:50 PM
XIII post_id=32806 time= user_id=894 Wrote:I've seen bits of Nigel Farage's show on YouTube and while I don't agree with his politics or his views, he's a very good presenter and it's a shame that he has decided to continue with this type of programming rather than do a Portillo and branch out into non political type shows. I think he’s far too divisive a figure to be able to make a sudden transition to a gentle documentary presenter. And I couldn’t see any of the major broadcasters taking him on without getting a huge amount of flak.
06-08-2021, 06:57 PM
Spencer post_id=32807 time= user_id=891 Wrote:Yes, you can separate the politics with someone like Portillo, he’s also quite happy to make himself look stupid. I think with Farage his politics would instantly alienate half of any potential audience. I actually think that’s less of a problem with an opinion based show for him, because you can watch those without having to like the host.XIII post_id=32806 time= user_id=894 Wrote:I've seen bits of Nigel Farage's show on YouTube and while I don't agree with his politics or his views, he's a very good presenter and it's a shame that he has decided to continue with this type of programming rather than do a Portillo and branch out into non political type shows.
06-08-2021, 07:07 PM
Jon post_id=32809 time= user_id=1050 Wrote:Yes, you can separate the politics with someone like Portillo, he’s also quite happy to make himself look stupid. I think with Farage his politics would instantly alienate half of any potential audience. I actually think that’s less of a problem with an opinion based show for him, because you can watch those without having to like the host. I find it interesting that Portillo managed to successfully reinvent himself as a broadcaster, you may not agree with his political views but he's excellent when he is talking to people on various programmes and genuinely shows interest in the things they're talking about and as you say, he's willing to make a fool out of himself.
06-08-2021, 07:26 PM
valley post_id=32788 time= user_id=971 Wrote:johnnyboy post_id=32787 time= user_id=925 Wrote:Whilst I do not disagree about Twitter being fairly toxic, you're making the assumption that Sainsbury's are incapable of making their own decisions. Of course it is entirely possible that they were concerned about their brand being placed alongside content and made the decision to remove it without even being aware of comments on Twitter or campaign groups.London Lite post_id=32786 time= user_id=953 Wrote:Hearing on the grapevine that Sainsbury's are the latest to axe advertising from GBN after campaigning by the left-wing activist group Led By Donkeys. You could well be right. Interesting that Sainsburys actually didn't say that they'd pulled their advertising but that their current campaign has ended. The people behind these campaigns (whether on the left or right) don't really represent the mainstream view held by the public. But 4,400 Tweets is next to nothing as a proportion of the UK population. To make decisions (if that's what actually happened) based upon the prospect of losing custom whose total spend wouldn't even represent a rounding error in accounting is strange leadership.
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06-08-2021, 07:39 PM
Farage really is the Roland Rat of GBN.
https://twitter.com/mediaguido/status/14...35077?s=21 It’s just the other hours (especially the daytime) which are problematic
06-08-2021, 07:39 PM
DavidWhitfield post_id=32805 time= user_id=1016 Wrote:True, but they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand either. Sainsbury's customer base and the twitterverse are not mutually exclusive, and it wasn't Twitter pressurising Sainsbury's to pull the ads, it was a section, a small section granted, of their customer base.johnnyboy post_id=32787 time= user_id=925 Wrote:Pretty amazing and disturbing how just over 4,400 messages on Twitter can cause such a reversal. Absolutely right though if GB News go down the route of using a show and host to repeatedly attack a much respected life saving charity that they are held to account for it - and if you're an advertiser funded channel it's likely that it'll be the advertisers who ultimately hold you to account, whether that's by directly pulling ad campaigns as a result or by pulling ad campaigns as a result of low viewership due to viewers not buying into such low standards of broadcasting.
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06-08-2021, 08:10 PM
Brekkie post_id=32819 time= user_id=976 Wrote:DavidWhitfield post_id=32805 time= user_id=1016 Wrote:True, but they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand either. Sainsbury's customer base and the twitterverse are not mutually exclusive, and it wasn't Twitter pressurising Sainsbury's to pull the ads, it was a section, a small section granted, of their customer base.johnnyboy post_id=32787 time= user_id=925 Wrote:Pretty amazing and disturbing how just over 4,400 messages on Twitter can cause such a reversal. You are right Brekkie but an attack is only an attack is you perceive it as such. Stop Funding Hate and Led By Donkeys are organisations sincere in their beliefs that immigration to the UK should essentially be unrestricted. This is a minority opinion but these organisations describe disagreement with their beliefs as hate, xenophobia, facism, Nazism - take your pick - because they want to portray their opponents as gammon Brexiteer extremists to play to their own audience. The RNLI have rescued asylum seekers from boats and the hands of traffickers as they should. Pointing that out should not be contentious and neither should highlighting the political activities of the organisation (or any organisation for that matter) in a democracy where speech is free. This is not a case of "calling out" something, in my opinion. The Sainsbury's stunt is brilliantly executed opportunism on these organisation's part. I think however Sainsbury's shown poor leadership if indeed they pulled advertising in response. GB News have pulled a blinder getting him on ratings wise. Now, what to do about the remaining 17 hours a day?
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06-08-2021, 08:17 PM
Not entirely comfortable with a very small group putting such pressure onto Sainsburys and winning. In fact I wish companies would have the balls to tell them to bugger off, it’s not exactly going to damage them.
06-08-2021, 08:20 PM
thecorrector post_id=32781 time= user_id=1692 Wrote:AllWillBeWell post_id=32775 time= user_id=773 Wrote:thecorrector post_id=32770 time= user_id=1692 Wrote:GBN once again proving to be the only broadcast news outlet in the UK where on-air staff call each other out: No it just accepts that people have opinions and to pretend a whole company all think alike isn't healthy. If the major players were serious about this (a broadcasting having one view and all obeying it), they would stop a certain well known presenter who presents sports and others like them. They haven't. Any employee of such broadcasters are unprofessional and bring the broadcaster into disrepute by any tweet which is outside the official position of the said broadcaster, using your logic. ![[Image: XxaoY7T2v9liNiBC1TWm9cYCsAYJ2XO73w0KIxpe...xOp3Qg2V-k]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/XxaoY7T2v9liNiBC1TWm9cYCsAYJ2XO73w0KIxperUi0dQS3wCSjfVsZtwCgX-jY9RcCXmMaFiie3xy68rSGu_4RJ0eYMyPJHs2wck64JA0my8zDusMieuX_8EdxBVdGb-BDtGS_GhMqZG_RQMD0orR2kxOp3Qg2V-k)
06-08-2021, 08:22 PM
all new Phil post_id=32825 time= user_id=865 Wrote:Not entirely comfortable with a very small group putting such pressure onto Sainsburys and winning. In fact I wish companies would have the balls to tell them to bugger off, it’s not exactly going to damage them. It is a bit silly as well as the majority of companies also run advertisements on Youtube and the ads run on almost any video. I have seen major companies advertise on Russian propaganda videos.
06-08-2021, 08:27 PM
XIII post_id=32811 time= user_id=894 Wrote:Jon post_id=32809 time= user_id=1050 Wrote:Yes, you can separate the politics with someone like Portillo, he’s also quite happy to make himself look stupid. I think with Farage his politics would instantly alienate half of any potential audience. I actually think that’s less of a problem with an opinion based show for him, because you can watch those without having to like the host. I don’t think Portillo and other politicians of that era were that controversial. I think with everything being so divisive over the past few years, it’ll be a lot more difficult for any current or recent politicians to make the transition into being broad-appeal presenters.
06-08-2021, 08:39 PM
johnnyboy post_id=32824 time= user_id=925 Wrote:Stop Funding Hate and Led By Donkeys are organisations sincere in their beliefs that immigration to the UK should essentially be unrestricted. Are you sure about that? As far as I know neither of those organisations have expressed that belief. Led by Donkeys is primarily an anti-Brexit group who campaign by showing up political hypocracy. It's name comes from World War 1 where the soldiers were said to have been lions led by donkeys. Its a comment on the inadequacies of leadership. Stop Funding Hate is an organisation that is anti hate and divisive speech in newspapers. It does that by pressurising companies to withdraw their advertising. Neither have any policies or beliefs about immigration policy, let alone one about unrestricted immigration. I'm sure the likes of GB News would like you to believe otherwise though...
06-08-2021, 08:43 PM
Ultimately as far as GB News is concerned all publicity is good publicity and they're clearly not at the point where they're unable to fill ad breaks - and based on the quality of ads on the likes of ITV3, ITV4 and the UKTV channels, plus numerous other digital channels, not much can be concluded by the types of ads that appear on those channels. Indeed you'd expect the bigger brands to focus more exclusively on the bigger channels than on the dozens of digital channels fighting for 1-2% of the TV audience.
Back to ratings and the latest BARB official ratings available are for the w/c 28 June, which is the first week without Andrew Neil but a couple of weeks before Farage. Actually quite a range of programmes here with most of the key slots featuring at least once. Notable exceptions are Dewbs & Co, subsequently cut to an hour, and the weekend editions of Tonight Live with Nana Akua, subsequently axed. 1 ANDREW NEIL (MON 20:01) 74600 2 TONIGHT LIVE WITH DAN WOOTTON (THU 21:00) 65500 3 ANDREW NEIL (THU 20:00) 62100 4 TONIGHT LIVE WITH DAN WOOTTON (MON 21:00) 60800 5 GREAT BRITISH BREAKFAST (MON 06:53) 55300 6 THE POLITICAL CORRECTION (SUN 10:00) 50100 7 MCCOY & PHILLIPS (MON 15:00) 46900 8 TONIGHT LIVE WITH DAN WOOTTON (WED 21:00) 46700 9 GREAT BRITISH BREAKFAST (TUE 06:00) 46000 10 TONIGHT LIVE WITH DAN WOOTTON (SUN 21:00) 42800 11 ANDREW NEIL (FRI 19:59) 38800 12 DEPIERO & HALLIGAN (MON 12:01) 36900 13 SATURDAY LIVE (SAT 10:00) 35800 14 BRAZIER & MUROKI (TUE 09:00) 35300 15 TONIGHT LIVE WITH DAN WOOTTON (TUE 21:00) 35200 For comparison BBC News and Sky News for the same week:
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