BBC News (UK)

**Matrix** · 20-07-2021, 10:03 PM

I mean, I would just say it's not the app causing the spike in transmissions... it is doing its job and doing exactly what it was designed for.

As for the contingency arrangements, these would always have featured as we emerge from something like this and its a testament just how little (relatively) has been visibly distributed (off camera is an entirely separate matter).

Moz · 20-07-2021, 10:03 PM

Huw’s a bit late tonight.

20-07-2021, 10:20 PM

I assume the BBC and others in the industry will be applying for exceptions for their staff, as per todays announcement. Pending a negative test of course.

Quote:A list of specific jobs was expected but instead, the prime minister's spokesman said the exemption would be determined case by case, with employers having to apply to the relevant government department to see if their workers can continue to come into work after they are identified as close contacts of someone who has tested positive for COVID.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-empl...t-12359593

**bbctvtechop** · 21-07-2021, 07:46 AM

Moz post_id=29504 time= user_id=746 Wrote:Huw’s a bit late tonight.

What happened?

**Steve Williams** · 21-07-2021, 08:34 AM

bbctvtechop post_id=29565 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:What happened?

Nothing. The programme before it was a bit longer than an hour so the news started at about two minutes past.

**bbctvtechop** · 21-07-2021, 09:29 AM

Steve Williams post_id=29572 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:
bbctvtechop post_id=29565 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:What happened?

Nothing. The programme before it was a bit longer than an hour so the news started at about two minutes past.

Normally in those situations the long programme would start a little early. Maybe drop some breaks before and after it. Never heard of the BBC News SCHEDULED to not start on the top of the hour. That causes all kinds of confusion at the regions, and creates a problem for the News Channel. Did something else happen earlier in the evening which made them run late?

~~steely12~~ · 21-07-2021, 09:50 AM

bbctvtechop post_id=29590 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:
Steve Williams post_id=29572 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:
bbctvtechop post_id=29565 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:What happened?

Nothing. The programme before it was a bit longer than an hour so the news started at about two minutes past.
Normally in those situations the long programme would start a little early. Maybe drop some breaks before and after it. Never heard of the BBC News SCHEDULED to not start on the top of the hour. That causes all kinds of confusion at the regions, and creates a problem for the News Channel. Did something else happen earlier in the evening which made them run late?

The first edition of Uprising was actually just a few seconds over 59 minutes long, so there was no reason why the BBC News at Ten couldn't start on time - from what I recall, they even ran a couple of short trailers after Uprising ended last night, thus delaying the News even more (presumably waiting to align with the News channel junction or something).

Earlier in the evening, EastEnders was billed as starting at 7:25pm, but it actually started closer to 7:29pm. Holby followed at around 7:51 - 7:52pm, I think, so perhaps that knocked the schedule off by a minute or two.

Which could have been remedied had they not shown a trailer or two in the junctions, but this is the BBC in 2021 where the same trailers on a loop must be shown in every junction come hell or high water.

LI4M · 21-07-2021, 01:01 PM

The news channel had been running the non-countdown TOTH loop from around :58. Though it came out of the weather a little abruptly though.

If there was any wait, it wouldn't have been for the NC.

**Newsroom** · 21-07-2021, 01:29 PM

LI4M post_id=29632 time= user_id=1530 Wrote:The news channel had been running the non-countdown TOTH loop from around :58. Though it came out of the weather a little abruptly though.

If there was any wait, it wouldn't have been for the NC.

I've never seen such a long countdown filler like the one shown last night. Looked a bit silly tbh. It also needs to be updated to reflect recent changes in personnel.

JamesWorldNews · 21-07-2021, 02:31 PM

Afternoon Live: BBC News from Scarborough with Martine Croxall. What’s not to like?

AndrewP · 21-07-2021, 02:55 PM

Today's been co-presented from Scarborough both yesterday and today as well. Judging by the pieces they're doing from the town, including interviews with the mayor and such, I presume it's something to do with "levelling up" and whether it's happening, if it works etc etc

Brekkie · 21-07-2021, 06:11 PM

bbctvtechop post_id=29590 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:
Steve Williams post_id=29572 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:
bbctvtechop post_id=29565 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:What happened?

Nothing. The programme before it was a bit longer than an hour so the news started at about two minutes past.
Normally in those situations the long programme would start a little early. Maybe drop some breaks before and after it. Never heard of the BBC News SCHEDULED to not start on the top of the hour. That causes all kinds of confusion at the regions, and creates a problem for the News Channel. Did something else happen earlier in the evening which made them run late?

They've been semi-regularly not hitting the 10pm start exactly for a few years now when circumstances demand it. It's just a common sense approach when ITV have been doing the same for decades, but for the BBC it's a couple of times a month compared to a couple of times a week at ITV.

**Transmission** · 21-07-2021, 06:31 PM

bbctvtechop post_id=29590 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:
Steve Williams post_id=29572 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:
bbctvtechop post_id=29565 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:What happened?

Nothing. The programme before it was a bit longer than an hour so the news started at about two minutes past.
Normally in those situations the long programme would start a little early.

Not if it's a post-watershed programme with content warnings. The BBC in particular have always been very careful about not starting those a second before 9pm (in fact, if I remember right, they always made sure the ident with the warning announcement would run post 9pm).

m_in_m · 21-07-2021, 08:29 PM

Transmission post_id=29744 time= user_id=1522 Wrote:
bbctvtechop post_id=29590 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:
Steve Williams post_id=29572 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:Nothing. The programme before it was a bit longer than an hour so the news started at about two minutes past.
Normally in those situations the long programme would start a little early.

Not if it's a post-watershed programme with content warnings. The BBC in particular have always been very careful about not starting those a second before 9pm (in fact, if I remember right, they always made sure the ident with the warning announcement would run post 9pm).

if that is their policy, which is understandable, then commissioners should take that into account and commission 58 minutes instead. It does explain why the Sunday night season last year connected to this always caused the news to be post 2200.

all new Phil · 21-07-2021, 09:34 PM

m_in_m post_id=29791 time= user_id=1218 Wrote:
Transmission post_id=29744 time= user_id=1522 Wrote:
bbctvtechop post_id=29590 time= user_id=1746 Wrote:Normally in those situations the long programme would start a little early.

Not if it's a post-watershed programme with content warnings. The BBC in particular have always been very careful about not starting those a second before 9pm (in fact, if I remember right, they always made sure the ident with the warning announcement would run post 9pm).
if that is their policy, which is understandable, then commissioners should take that into account and commission 58 minutes instead. It does explain why the Sunday night season last year connected to this always caused the news to be post 2200.

Depends what you value more - programmes running uncut or the news starting bang on 10. I know which I think is more important and I suspect it’s at odds with most here.

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