Starting from scratch sounds even worse than what we all initially thought!
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BBC News and BBC World to merge
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14-07-2022, 12:34 PM
(14-07-2022, 12:22 PM)Newsroom Wrote: The Times have run a piece that doesn't make for great reading at all. Sounds utterly vile trying to imagine it. The Tory-friendly broadsheets tend to be the ones most protected by paywall. What are the key highlights? (14-07-2022, 12:34 PM)headliner101 Wrote:(14-07-2022, 12:22 PM)Newsroom Wrote: The Times have run a piece that doesn't make for great reading at all. Sounds utterly vile trying to imagine it. Highlights as follows:
Sounds like a move towards a BBC equivalent of CBS News Streaming Network (which was suggested in the past).
14-07-2022, 01:16 PM
I’d argue that starting with a blank page is a great way to plan something that doesn’t exist at the moment. Judging by the negativity that has surrounded any simulcasting in the past few years, or the past few weeks since this was announced, it seems posters here wouldn’t really like something resembling the current arrangement anyway.
14-07-2022, 01:17 PM
https://archive.ph/aIPH2 Here is the article without paywall
14-07-2022, 01:41 PM
What is described in the article doesn't seem that terrible, though obviously need to wait until BBC announcements and then the final product to make a full judgement. As I've previously suggested focussing on the international market is the more financially sound thing to do and the ability to opt for big UK news is obviously a sensible idea - though, again, I have previously queried wheher having the ability to do that is actually any cheaper than just having a fixed opt.
Also some of the suggested changes are neither particularly radical or unexpected - overnights coming from the US and/or Singapore makes sense (and already happens for three hours with Newsday/ABR). The BBC recently made a major investment in their Washington studio, yet only use it for 30 minutes per day - would make sense to use it and the Washington team more. Presenter losses are not that unexpected, if unfortunate for the people involved - they were always going to be a likely target of budget cuts.
14-07-2022, 01:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-07-2022, 01:50 PM by Omnipresent.)
Full details announced:
The new channel will launch in April 2023. Nicky Campbell''s Five Live show will be simulcast on the UK stream and BBC Two. https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2022/b...ch-in-2023 Quote:BBC News has set out further details of the new TV news channel which will launch next year, replacing its two existing separate news channels for UK and global audiences. The channel, which will be called BBC News, is expected to launch in April 2023.
14-07-2022, 01:50 PM
Well then i hope they get thrown out at consultation since that still has to happen.
14-07-2022, 01:52 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-07-2022, 02:10 PM by headliner101.)
(14-07-2022, 01:41 PM)DTV Wrote: What is described in the article doesn't seem that terrible, though obviously need to wait until BBC announcements and then the final product to make a full judgement. As I've previously suggested focussing on the international market is the more financially sound thing to do and the ability to opt for big UK news is obviously a sensible idea - though, again, I have previously queried wheher having the ability to do that is actually any cheaper than just having a fixed opt. It appears as if the new channel will be more World-ish. So as far as existing World viewers are concerned, it seems to be less of a major change in terms of types of stories covered. There is no indication from this or other 3rd party articles that existing World viewers will receive an increase in UK-specific content. I don't see how it is a merger when you have fair chunk of bespoke UK content seen by only domestic viewers. But no doubt domestic viewers, especially fans of News 24, are getting the shorter end of the stick. But the biggest takeaway or highlight - which is why if you read Martine C's tweet it appears so glum - is the expected reduction by about 200-ish staff.
14-07-2022, 01:55 PM
I'd rather the Channel was more News Channel-ish than World-ish.
14-07-2022, 01:58 PM
(14-07-2022, 01:01 PM)dougal Wrote: 'Follow The Sun' working, quite common for organisations with worldwide offices to do that. 3 x 8 hr shifts in a row, that are during local office hours
14-07-2022, 02:02 PM
(14-07-2022, 01:44 PM)Omnipresent Wrote: Full details announced:My initial thoughts are that I think the use of Singapore and Washington outside of daytime hours makes sense, and to some extent is already occurring. Visualising BBC Radio 5 Live Nicky Campbell for BBC Two and the UK stream of the new channel I'm less sure about. I believe there are some radio programmes that are already visualised and shown on the News Channel at weekends and evenings. If the 5 Live show was only being shown on BBC Two then that would also be okay, as an alternative to the current daytime simulcast on BBC Two. However also being shown on the new channel does feel like a step backwards from the current offering, even if it does enable the (merged) channel to cover UK breaking news easily at minimal extra cost.
Formerly 'Charlie Wells' of TVForum.
(14-07-2022, 01:52 PM)headliner101 Wrote: It appears as if the new channel will be more World-ish. So as far as existing World viewers are concerned, it seems to be less of a major change in terms of types of stories covered. I don't see how it is a merger when you have fair chunk of bespoke UK content. But no doubt domestic viewers, especially fans of News 24, are getting the much shorter end of the stick. To be quite honest, the News 24 lineage died in 2015. Since then the majority of the BBC News channel has been either World News simulcasts or BBC One/Two simulcasts - on the average weekday, less than a third of BBC News channel content is exclusive to the channel. The News 24 ship sailed a long time ago. My reading of The Times and BBC articles is that the new channel (as proposed) will basically be fairly similar the current BBC World News channel, with evenings (probably post-Outside Source) now coming from Washington and overnights from Singapore. UK viewers will opt-out in the mornings for a simulcast of Nicky Campbell (recorded a la Newscast), as well as in future other BBC Radio programmes. The UK will also have the ability to opt-out for UK-specific Breaking News. Whether Breakfast and the three network bulletins will be simulcast is unspecified, but I think it's safe to assume that they will until otherwise stated.
14-07-2022, 02:08 PM
Slightly surprised by the notion that employing people in Washington DC will be cheaper. U.K. salaries are generally a fair bit lower than those in the US, especially in a city like Washington.
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