28-07-2022, 02:14 PM
I'm posting this on behalf of someone I know who visits here quite frequently but is not a registered member and really wants to say goodbye to TV Live Forum (he can't register, as registration is closed).
Disclaimer: The following message is not by me, and I don't reflect the opinions and views in this message:
Hey everyone, RandomMe/The Testcardiologist here. I am currently in the middle of a YouTube crisis pending resolution, having sent a counter-notification more than a week ago, and waiting for a good outcome to see my content restored.
Having first discovered TV pres websites and being glued to them like a drug addict in 2005 (first with TV & Radio Bits, then The TV Room, then TVARK, then APFS, and so on) I witnessed the rise and fall of many of these pres websites, including TV Forum. I tried joining TV Forum as soon as the shutdown announcement was made, but somehow the account was rejected, and tried again under TV Live Forum when the shutdown was announced, but given a number of forum issues I didn't register, and there wasn't a user rush at closing time.
Having been on online forums (mostly Toonzone/Anime Superhero) since 2012, I've seen the arrival of the "new kids on the block". those who don't mature and don't have decent opinions, and were raised almost entirely in the smartphone and YouTube/social media age (I only discovered YouTube a year after it started). While I was happy to have seen the last year of APFS in its entirety, including the forums (that's how I discovered the Channel 7 Thailand lightspots), it just sucks to see that the TV presentation community has become like other communities that have been infested by the "kiddies", bullies and people doing nothing but just post nonsense especially on YouTube and make idiosyncratic comments. This has been exacerbated at the greater scheme, with the rise of new social movements and people supporting ideas on paper without doing anything. Won't mention any of that due to personal trigger warnings, but social media is becoming a toxic rabbit hole. In the past couple of years I have lost but regained some of my sanity due to factors beyond my control.
I am aware that Rob Francis is shutting down the forums due to both internal and external reasons, and people like me have been past the same situations, IRL and on social media. And I am considering cutting my influence in the general TV community, and related ones, because the more kids they gather, the more toxic their communities get. Firstly I would like to thank Rob Francis for the first and final time. A website like TV Live was never my cup of tea, as it was more like one of those TV Room-esque websites (and by that I mean the pre-2011 TV Room). To the admins of TVARK, good luck on their long recovery (SPARK recently didn't work). To RegularCapital (to whom I am sending this message on my behalf) and Kunst, good luck, to Mark McMillan, who introduced me to alternate histories (now I am interested in the genre in its entirety rather than just alternate British media timelines), grateful memories, to Robert Williams, whose content has been integrated to his Des and Mick website (and still gutted that the old The TV Room and TV & Radio Bits have been excluded from Internet Archive), massive thanks for introducing me to a sense of televised Anglophilia in the summer of 2005, to Asa Hicks, congratulations, because running a TV pres site was hard for him, many years later for the forum, to my closest British friend who was never on either of the two forums, Applemask, here's to more joint works, and to everyone who has helped shape the British TV pres scene, a massive thank you to everyone involved. While YouTube isn't fixing the issue of my channels, my TV pres channel The Testcardiologist (who at suspension time had a little over three million views or twice those of my main channel), when it returns (I hope so) will be heavily reduced because other users have exploited my work in general, and that's another reason why I plan to leave the TV community in general. And a final message to the bullies: they need proper education, a proper worldview, and most importantly a life. And now it's time to switch off the television set and as the TMF ABC closedown mocks said, remove the plug from the wall socket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4G5hKFY46Y
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Disclaimer: The following message is not by me, and I don't reflect the opinions and views in this message:
Hey everyone, RandomMe/The Testcardiologist here. I am currently in the middle of a YouTube crisis pending resolution, having sent a counter-notification more than a week ago, and waiting for a good outcome to see my content restored.
Having first discovered TV pres websites and being glued to them like a drug addict in 2005 (first with TV & Radio Bits, then The TV Room, then TVARK, then APFS, and so on) I witnessed the rise and fall of many of these pres websites, including TV Forum. I tried joining TV Forum as soon as the shutdown announcement was made, but somehow the account was rejected, and tried again under TV Live Forum when the shutdown was announced, but given a number of forum issues I didn't register, and there wasn't a user rush at closing time.
Having been on online forums (mostly Toonzone/Anime Superhero) since 2012, I've seen the arrival of the "new kids on the block". those who don't mature and don't have decent opinions, and were raised almost entirely in the smartphone and YouTube/social media age (I only discovered YouTube a year after it started). While I was happy to have seen the last year of APFS in its entirety, including the forums (that's how I discovered the Channel 7 Thailand lightspots), it just sucks to see that the TV presentation community has become like other communities that have been infested by the "kiddies", bullies and people doing nothing but just post nonsense especially on YouTube and make idiosyncratic comments. This has been exacerbated at the greater scheme, with the rise of new social movements and people supporting ideas on paper without doing anything. Won't mention any of that due to personal trigger warnings, but social media is becoming a toxic rabbit hole. In the past couple of years I have lost but regained some of my sanity due to factors beyond my control.
I am aware that Rob Francis is shutting down the forums due to both internal and external reasons, and people like me have been past the same situations, IRL and on social media. And I am considering cutting my influence in the general TV community, and related ones, because the more kids they gather, the more toxic their communities get. Firstly I would like to thank Rob Francis for the first and final time. A website like TV Live was never my cup of tea, as it was more like one of those TV Room-esque websites (and by that I mean the pre-2011 TV Room). To the admins of TVARK, good luck on their long recovery (SPARK recently didn't work). To RegularCapital (to whom I am sending this message on my behalf) and Kunst, good luck, to Mark McMillan, who introduced me to alternate histories (now I am interested in the genre in its entirety rather than just alternate British media timelines), grateful memories, to Robert Williams, whose content has been integrated to his Des and Mick website (and still gutted that the old The TV Room and TV & Radio Bits have been excluded from Internet Archive), massive thanks for introducing me to a sense of televised Anglophilia in the summer of 2005, to Asa Hicks, congratulations, because running a TV pres site was hard for him, many years later for the forum, to my closest British friend who was never on either of the two forums, Applemask, here's to more joint works, and to everyone who has helped shape the British TV pres scene, a massive thank you to everyone involved. While YouTube isn't fixing the issue of my channels, my TV pres channel The Testcardiologist (who at suspension time had a little over three million views or twice those of my main channel), when it returns (I hope so) will be heavily reduced because other users have exploited my work in general, and that's another reason why I plan to leave the TV community in general. And a final message to the bullies: they need proper education, a proper worldview, and most importantly a life. And now it's time to switch off the television set and as the TMF ABC closedown mocks said, remove the plug from the wall socket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4G5hKFY46Y
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