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28-05-2022, 04:40 PM
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How it was done before rolling news channels ever existed
https://youtu.be/PeKI7R1WNQM
“Crossing over to ITN” was not for the faint-hearted:
https://youtu.be/bhGtr1Bib1M
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Heh, "Newsflash Resignation" makes it sounds like the newsflash itself is resigning
But seriously though, slap some text over a programme which will double up as a newsflash until the end of the programme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD_OnwLXvH0
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28-05-2022, 07:39 PM
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Uploaded today, Channel 4 newsflash about Hillsborough
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Quite a recent newsflash but it still feels like an older one.
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I've seen that episode of People Today which had the Thatcher newsflash. The newsflash itself was only a minute or two and then they went back to the programme which continued as if nothing had happened. The only mention was when they read a few messages from callers just before the 10am news. They ended by saying that the mess and Children's BBC was next and what they were covering later on.... only to be followed by Judi Spiers, who did the in vision continuity on Daytime UK to say exactly the opposite, that the rest of the morning was going to be news.
It wasn't handled that well, but unlike other daytime magazines like This Morning or Anne and Nick it was human interest orientated not topical.
It also shows how different things are now with rolling news, then it was a just 2 minutes from the daytime bulletins newsreader as they weren't ready to do any more. Now the news would break and run from there
Here's how to do a newsflash (from 1997)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPhCuz8qvWo
And here's how not to do a newsflash (from 2013)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aaLVn1kR3c
28-05-2022, 09:44 PM
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(28-05-2022, 07:52 PM)no1fanofthepals Wrote: Quite a recent newsflash but it still feels like an older one.
I am surprised that these kinds of newsflashes are still being done in this day and age
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29-05-2022, 12:03 AM
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That was between two back to back Euro 2021 matches ISTR on a Saturday evening and at the time was a major "public-nerve" story - almost a fore-runner to Partygate in many respects. I would wager that because of the time between news bulletins (with two games back to back) it was felt a short up-summer was warranted.
However, one cannot discuss the Newsflash of course without the posting of a link to this excellent ITV documentary. Border Television's role in supplying pictures to accompany the Lockerbie Disaster is a particular highlight - something that would be exceptionally easy to do if (God forbid) it were to happen today, but in 1988 getting pictures on-air was a whole different story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFoEC2O9...ytheLoafer
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(29-05-2022, 12:03 AM)telebox2001 Wrote: Border Television's role in supplying pictures to accompany the Lockerbie Disaster is a particular highlight - something that would be exceptionally easy to do if (God forbid) it were to happen today, but in 1988 getting pictures on-air was a whole different story.
And it proved how strong the ITV companies in the franchise era were able to provide content to ITN without compromising their own regional news coverage.
The people over at BBC Scotland were also able to provide footage to the network newsroom, but nothing beats how Border made an heroic effort to get footage as soon as possible, given they didn’t have quite a presence in the zone.
What was the difference between a "Newsflash" and "News Report"? I know in theory very little but I've seen graphics with both names for both BBC and ITN reports.
In more recent years (and to this day) the BBC always preferred News Report (although that text clip from 1985 proves otherwise). News Flash was ITN’s preferred style.
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29-05-2022, 04:32 PM
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(29-05-2022, 02:17 AM)Medianext.MX Wrote: (29-05-2022, 12:03 AM)telebox2001 Wrote: Border Television's role in supplying pictures to accompany the Lockerbie Disaster is a particular highlight - something that would be exceptionally easy to do if (God forbid) it were to happen today, but in 1988 getting pictures on-air was a whole different story.
And it proved how strong the ITV companies in the franchise era were able to provide content to ITN without compromising their own regional news coverage.
The people over at BBC Scotland were also able to provide footage to the network newsroom, but nothing beats how Border made an heroic effort to get footage as soon as possible, given they didn’t have quite a presence in the zone.
One thing there's very little footage of, if any, is Central East's coverage of the Kegworth Air Disaster a few weeks later when a B737-400 crashed onto the M1 in Leicestershire. Indeed, not that much exists online. We know both BBC1 and BBC2 did news flashes but there's not much of what ITN or Central did, despite it being one of the biggest stories Central News East ever covered. I am guessing Central would have played a major part in getting pictures to ITN there too given how (realatively) easy the disaster site was to get to from Lenton Lane.
I believe in 1985 the Manchester Runway disaster saw TV-AM supplying a lot of footage with both ITN and Granada unable to get anywhere near MAN due to traffic? Indeed, I seem to recall the IBA gave TV-AM a special pass to stay on air past 09:25 as ITN weren't in a position to pick up the coverage?
EDIT: The late John Myers mentions in his book that Border were supplying their footage to international agencies as well, I'm guessing a sat truck would have had to come on site to facilitate this?
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29-05-2022, 05:07 PM
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More on News at Ten, which is at Ten-fifteen, as a matter of fact.
https://youtu.be/_KwukpgrPgc
And another one from Sandy.
https://youtu.be/mhOx3YEoDEU
And another......
https://youtu.be/YBblvTY_XRo
And Sandy Gall again, this time announcing the Lockerbie crash
https://youtu.be/sTkzfCIrJtE
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29-05-2022, 05:13 PM
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(29-05-2022, 12:09 PM)JLav25 Wrote: What was the difference between a "Newsflash" and "News Report"? I know in theory very little but I've seen graphics with both names for both BBC and ITN reports.
Newsflash is a bit of an archaic term now, based on the old days of the news wires when big news would be "flashed". But over the years it fell out of use and the standard term became News Report.
(29-05-2022, 04:32 PM)telebox2001 Wrote: I believe in 1985 the Manchester Runway disaster saw TV-AM supplying a lot of footage with both ITN and Granada unable to get anywhere near MAN due to traffic? Indeed, I seem to recall the IBA gave TV-AM a special pass to stay on air past 09:25 as ITN weren't in a position to pick up the coverage?
Well, the 1985 Virgin Television Yearbook does say that TV-am did broadcast after 9.25 as they had footage of the disaster, as they happened to have a crew there, and neither the BBC or ITN were there yet. They say it was the first time TV-am were able to broadcast to the whole network outside their specified hours, but it's not clear as to whether they continued rolling coverage or they went off air at 9.25 and then came back, ITV going to them for a newsflash in the same way they would usually go to ITN. I think it was probably the latter as we didn't generally have rolling coverage in those days.
That's another example of serendipity playing a part in coverage, we saw it again last night when the Beeb were able to get some eyewitness reports from the trouble in Paris as a couple of Beeb people were there as fans. There are lots of examples of that, I remember a train crash about twenty years ago where Jonny Saunders reported for the Beeb because he was actually on the train when it crashed. I think it's been mentioned here before that there was a local station that got their Managing Director to report on another train crash because he lived about two minutes away from where it happened.
I also remember Louise Minchin reporting on the fatality at the Car Fest event a few years ago as she was there, and Sky News' first reports on the Westminster terror attack coming from Alan Parry who happened to be walking past.
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29-05-2022, 05:14 PM
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Moira flawlessly delivering a Newsflash about the Tiananmen Square protests. Mind you, the CA intro was slightly less flawless.......
https://youtu.be/JnSaL_cms5U
Sue Lawley handing over to Michael Buerk for the networked Kegworth Newsflash.
Lawley even uses the term, as also depicted on the caption card.
https://youtu.be/KwanLIcronI
Tim Willcox with early news of Princess Diana’s car crash. Dermot Murnaghan and Nicholas Owen later took over from Tim at ITN for further developments:
https://youtu.be/unUzljOGKbo
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