ITV News Changes from March
#31
ITV should be careful to give up 7pm so readily.

We've see before what happens when they give up long established slots. EE if it did move to 7pm may well improve in that slot with an audience used to soap being on at that time.
#32
London Lite post_id=64575 time=1642964445 user_id=953 Wrote:Steve makes a good point that the soaps aren't the big ratings gainers that they used to be. In the VOD world we live in where Enders still does ok on iPlayer, would it really be a big issue if EE was put up against the extended Evening News at 7pm with The One Show going up against Emmerdale and Corrie in a new slot? (The 7pm slot on Wednesdays could be used for regional content like We are England or other worthy PSB content).

When EE was moved to all numerous times during the Summer Olympics, it seemed me to be innovative to just box set a weeks worth of the soap on a Monday on iPlayer and let viewers decide when to watch them, either as bulk viewing or drip feed them as they please.

I'd expect that ITV are banking on that happening - indeed, I'd have thought that most people who watch EE also watch Emmerdale and Corrie. An extra half hour of news would doubtless be much cheaper than what they currently put out against EE, anyway.
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#33
eyeTV post_id=64578 time= user_id=1517 Wrote:ITV should be careful to give up 7pm so readily.

We've see before what happens when they give up long established slots. EE if it is did move to 7pm may well improve in that slot with an audience used to soap being on at that time.
I think moving EastEnders to 7pm would kill The One Show. It changes the dynamic of the evening. ITV do need to be mindful though that they don't do something that loses them the 7pm slot - they saw the difficulty when they moved News at Ten first time round.
#34
UTVLifer post_id=64570 time= user_id=1030 Wrote:I wonder if they might use the small soft area that we've seen used for interviews during Election Nights and the show that Philip Schofield and Julie Etchingham presented on the night of the Prince Philip's death, as part of the extended Evening News - as it might help to do some of the slightly softer elements (if there are any) away from the big desk.
I think that'd involve them having to move the London desk out of the way and putting the soft area in - not ideal while broadcasting so presumably that'd have to result in London moving to another studio or being pre-recorded. Looking at this, I don't think there'd be room to have both:
https://twitter.com/julie_etch/status/14...3479651333

Personally, I think a better way of doing this would be having News at Ten extended by 15 minutes, with the regional news at 10.45.

eyeTV post_id=64573 time= user_id=1517 Wrote:They could move EastEnders permanently to 7pm and The One Show to 7.30pm.
Isn't EastEnders only 20-25 minutes now?
#35
It's a bit of risk that ITV are playing if it is true. I do wonder why they have thought about doing this? Then again, if it means one less soap slot to worry about, then I would say it's a good move. We'll see what happens.
#36
CameronYoung post_id=64583 time= user_id=1509 Wrote:Isn't EastEnders only 20-25 minutes now?

No, they returned to half an hour slots at the start of the year. Although still 20 minutes on a Tuesday, alongside a 40 minute Holby.
#37
I could see them moving Emmerdale to 7.30pm daily with 1 hour on a Thursday and Corrie to be shown Mon, Wed and Friday for 1 hour at 8pm. This would only leave the 8pm hour on Tuesday and 8.30pm on Thursday to fill with non soap formats during the 7.30pm-9pm period.

Id like to think they could reduce the soaps to 5 episodes each - keep it simple with half hour each between 7.30pm-8.30pm. But I know they wont do that unfortunately.
#38
chris post_id=52245 time= user_id=1265 Wrote:
GMc post_id=52237 time= user_id=1131 Wrote:The ITV Evening News is extended to 45 minutes on Tuesday 23rd November (18:30-19:15). Does anyone know why this would be?

Could be a sign of things to come?


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This has been rumoured at ITV for some time, especially with the increased roster of reporters.

Personally, I think it’s a terrible idea that will see Emmerdale viewers flock to the One Show and we’ll struggle to get them back.
#39
If the extra 30 minutes is going to be absolutely straight news, I can see this being a real disaster, if it’s true. Who wants to sit through 90 minutes of news a night (120 if you watch NaT as well)?

The only way I can see it working is if the extra half an hour is a different format somehow. Maybe some sort of Morning Joe style discussion panel with Paul Brand, Peston, etc - three editors/correspondents discussing the days events with Mary, maybe with a couple of regional highlights. With a news summary halfway through, you could probably stretch it to half an hour.

Like others, I wonder if they’ll use the soft set corner for part of this extra 30 minutes - I think, but might be wrong, that there is space for that in the corner without having to move the ITV London desk?

Unless they permanently change the ITV London set up, which could then double for the extra 30 mins?
#40
Aaron.TV post_id=64606 time= user_id=1940 Wrote:The only way I can see it working is if the extra half an hour is a different format somehow. Maybe some sort of Morning Joe style discussion panel with Paul Brand, Peston, etc - three editors/correspondents discussing the days events with Mary, maybe with a couple of regional highlights. With a news summary halfway through, you could probably stretch it to half an hour.

While it's good that ITV are committed to primetime news, I can't imagine anything more likely to turn off Emmerdale viewers and send them to The One Show than that kind of thing.

Of course, the teatime news moved to 6.30 initially so ITV could still have half an hour of news in the official definition of primetime, 6-10.30. If this does happen they'll have an hour and a half!
#41
Aaron.TV post_id=64606 time= user_id=1940 Wrote:If the extra 30 minutes is going to be absolutely straight news, I can see this being a real disaster, if it’s true. Who wants to sit through 90 minutes of news a night (120 if you watch NaT as well)?
News junkies on here and the old place probably do or did!

An hour of news is doable, see Channel 4 News, 5 News etc as well as in places like Australia but it has to be formatted right.
#42
Steve Williams post_id=64617 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:
Aaron.TV post_id=64606 time= user_id=1940 Wrote:The only way I can see it working is if the extra half an hour is a different format somehow. Maybe some sort of Morning Joe style discussion panel with Paul Brand, Peston, etc - three editors/correspondents discussing the days events with Mary, maybe with a couple of regional highlights. With a news summary halfway through, you could probably stretch it to half an hour.

While it's good that ITV are committed to primetime news, I can't imagine anything more likely to turn off Emmerdale viewers and send them to The One Show than that kind of thing.

Of course, the teatime news moved to 6.30 initially so ITV could still have half an hour of news in the official definition of primetime, 6-10.30. If this does happen they'll have an hour and a half!

I’m in agreement to be honest, I’m not convinced that there’s demand for either 30 extra minutes of straight news (and what do you actually fill the time with?), or a slightly softer, news based format.

‘Tonight’ is usually around or slightly under 2 million viewers I believe, so unless it was a different format in some way that proves popular I can’t see the extra 30 minutes doing any better than that.
#43
Sounds like an awful idea, more about cutting the cost of filler programmes between 7.30-9 than improving the news content. The Evening News has everything you need in a little over 20 minutes - if it was about the news content extending News at Ten to an hour, Inc regional news, would very better.
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#44
If this happens and Corrie moves out of the 7.30pm slot it will be the first time in over 60 years that Corrie hasn't aired on Mon and Wed at 7.30pm on a regular basis and also over 30 years on a Friday at 7.30pm. Also Emmerdale has been a fixture in the 7pm slot for over 30 years and been shown daily since it went 5 times a week in 2000. It would be a massive change.

The soaps aren't the big ratings pullers they once were so its a good thing they are trying other things out and shaking up the schedule a bit.
#45
P.S. Wonder if that random 45 minute episode which we put down to aligning the schedule with the Bake Off final was kind of a pilot for filling more time. Guess there is a good chance of a new look being introduced with any changes too.

I think moving the bulletin to 5.30pm and The Chase to 6.30pm would make more sense than this, but require them to 100% commit to News at Ten to meet the primetime commitment.
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