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iloveTV1 post_id=38656 time= user_id=1057 Wrote:
valley post_id=38639 time= user_id=971 Wrote:
iloveTV1 post_id=38635 time= user_id=1057 Wrote:Barney is on YouTube, he says he left blue Peter because he wanted a break from TV, he had been on CBBC for 15 years and had never really got anywhere from it.
In addition Barney makes corporate/ad videos and is a licensed drone pilot now.

Also does some video and music work as well I think

Barney was on the One Show at the beginning of August doing a pre-filmed report about Blackpool and seaside holidays. Seems as if The One Show or Morning Live are where BP presenters go to after they leave, as Lindsey's been doing more stuff for Morning Live recently too!
I’ve always thought the One Show was basically Blue Peter for adults.
I think those shows commission reports from independent producers and film makers aswell so chances are they might be making the report for them aswell.
Christopher Wenner, who hosted the show from 1978 to 1980, has died aged 66.
iloveTV1 post_id=50927 time= user_id=1057 Wrote:Christopher Wenner, who hosted the show from 1978 to 1980, has died aged 66.

He certainly fell in the awkward spot between John, Peter and Lesley and early 80s (my era) of Simon, Sarah and Peter with Goldie. For a while it wasn’t a good programme even Biddy Baxter admits she got it wrong with some presenters.

Wenner to a 6 or 7 yr old me never seemed to fit in. Add in an inexperienced Simon Groom- then Tina Heath who could have been a great presenter but who fell pregnant so she correctly left and it drifted for a while at the end of 70s.

Mind you Baxter could be ruthless as her treatment of Michael Sundin proved in mid 80s. But that’s a whole other story.
Philheybrookbay post_id=51055 time= user_id=1441 Wrote:Wenner to a 6 or 7 yr old me never seemed to fit in. Add in an inexperienced Simon Groom- then Tina Heath who could have been a great presenter but who fell pregnant so she correctly left and it drifted for a while at the end of 70s.

There is a bit in Richard Marson's book when they talk about the Simon, Chris and Tina era, as they'd lost three hugely experienced presenters in the space of twelve months, and Alex Leger, the long-serving producer, says "We went from a Stradivarius to a banjo". It also says in Biddy's book that this was the first time Blue Peter was ever mentioned in the weekly programme review meeting, with Alasdair Milne saying to Edward Barnes "I hear you've got a few problems with Blue Peter, Edward". As Biddy says, the fact it was even mentioned in the meeting was big news because they rarely mentioned kids' shows as they were always working when they were on, so clearly their kids had told them about it.

But Biddy is generous to Wenner in her book, she says that he wasn't the right fit but it was just as much their fault for putting him in the position in the first place and expecting him to follow John Noakes. And as Richard Marson tweeted yesterday, Wenner himself went on to say he was probably wrong for it. But he certainly went on to do great things, as the obituaries have illustrated - under the name of Max Stahl (his actual first name - Chris was his middle name - and his mother's surname), he went on to become a distinguished journalist and film-maker, specialising in reporting from trouble spots, and his reporting from East Timor in the early nineties has been cited as the first time the wider world saw the atrocities in that country and inspired a huge aid effort, much like Michael Buerk in Ethiopia, and he was an absolute hero there, with even the President paying tribute to him.

As Marson's book says, they decided it wasn't worth persevering with Wenner because he didn't come high enough in the Swap Shop awards. That was always what Biddy said was the justification for parting ways with Wenner and, indeed, with Michael Sundin, the audience just didn't take to them. I wouldn't say she was ruthless, its not like Blue Peter was the only show that hired and fired presenters (I know all the Play School presenters were all engaged for a week with no guarantee of if or when they'd be invited back), and Wenner and Sundin both got a proper send-off. Compare that to other shows where departing presenters just get chucked out of a side door and never referred to ever again.

Wenner always said that although it didn't work out he was proud of being a part of Blue Peter and always returned for the anniversaries, and one of Michael Sundin's final TV appearances was as part of a line-up of former presenters paying tribute to Biddy when she retired, so they were clearly happy enough to do that. I think they appreciated that Biddy was always straight with them and all her decisions were made with the audience in mind, rather than any personal animosity.

I hope we'll get a brief mention of Wenner on the show itself, they did for John Noakes.
A difficult one for the show as given their target audience wasn't even born when Konnie Huq was presenting, never mind the late 70s, I think other than for the big defining presenters of the show it is probably appropriate not to mention them. A slide at the end could be done, but you kind of feel that needs explaining, and the show has a duty to cover death in a way appropriate for their audience.
Brekkie post_id=51068 time= user_id=976 Wrote:A difficult one for the show as given their target audience wasn't even born when Konnie Huq was presenting, never mind the late 70s, I think other than for the big defining presenters of the show it is probably appropriate not to mention them. A slide at the end could be done, but you kind of feel that needs explaining, and the show has a duty to cover death in a way appropriate for their audience.

I don't see why it would be a problem - Newsround did a report on the death of Edward Barnes the other week, so they clearly thought that was appropriate. As I say, they did it for John Noakes a few years ago, I know Chris Wenner is not John Noakes but it's worth a brief mention.

Blue Peter are always good at making reference to their history, in a relevant way, so when Richie did a parachute jump not long ago they pointed out he was following in the tradition of previous presenters and they showed a few clips of Noakes and Ellis and the rest doing it, and when they announce new presenters on air they always mention what number they are. I can well imagine them saying "We've got some sad news, Chris Wenner, Blue Peter presenter number nine, who your parents and grandparents may remember, sadly died last week, and we send all our love to his family and friends" accompanied by a quick montage of him abseiling and meeting the Queen and so on. That's all it needs, it can be done in thirty seconds.

They can easily get the tone right. They always do.
Steve Williams post_id=51087 time= user_id=1326 Wrote:
Brekkie post_id=51068 time= user_id=976 Wrote:A difficult one for the show as given their target audience wasn't even born when Konnie Huq was presenting, never mind the late 70s, I think other than for the big defining presenters of the show it is probably appropriate not to mention them. A slide at the end could be done, but you kind of feel that needs explaining, and the show has a duty to cover death in a way appropriate for their audience.

I don't see why it would be a problem - Newsround did a report on the death of Edward Barnes the other week, so they clearly thought that was appropriate. As I say, they did it for John Noakes a few years ago, I know Chris Wenner is not John Noakes but it's worth a brief mention.

Blue Peter are always good at making reference to their history, in a relevant way, so when Richie did a parachute jump not long ago they pointed out he was following in the tradition of previous presenters and they showed a few clips of Noakes and Ellis and the rest doing it, and when they announce new presenters on air they always mention what number they are. I can well imagine them saying "We've got some sad news, Chris Wenner, Blue Peter presenter number nine, who your parents and grandparents may remember, sadly died last week, and we send all our love to his family and friends" accompanied by a quick montage of him abseiling and meeting the Queen and so on. That's all it needs, it can be done in thirty seconds.

They can easily get the tone right. They always do.

Of course, Chris Wenner was one of the presenters of that infamous edition where Simon Groom ad-libbed "Hmmm - what a beautiful pair of knockers" after an item, fronted by Chris, about the door knockers at Durham Cathedral.
Brekkie post_id=51068 time= user_id=976 Wrote:A difficult one for the show as given their target audience wasn't even born when Konnie Huq was presenting, never mind the late 70s, I think other than for the big defining presenters of the show it is probably appropriate not to mention them. A slide at the end could be done, but you kind of feel that needs explaining, and the show has a duty to cover death in a way appropriate for their audience.

An odd take as Blue Peter has never been one to shy away from its history (Michael Sundin aside).
I was about 7 when Christopher Wenner took over from John Noakes, I never had any problem with him and never saw him as an odd fit for the programme. For the first few months he and Simon Groome had Lesley Judd to steer them in the right direction. However that line up was short lived. I never took to Tina Heath her voice was too whiney.

It's an interesting period in Blue Peter's history, that I didn't notice the problems at the time. I'd love to be able to re-watch that era to see if it was as bad as it is suggested.
Sad that Chris didn’t get a mention. With the again axing of the Advent Crown, the present Editor is not a keeper of traditions.
johnhugh post_id=52062 time= user_id=809 Wrote:Sad that Chris didn’t get a mention. With the again axing of the Advent Crown, the present Editor is not a keeper of traditions.

When did they axe the advent calendar?
The advent crown was for only the last 4 shows before Christmas anyway, but was basically a tacky and dangerous thing with a bit of tinsel around a coat hanger and naked flames. It's probably one tradition best consigned to history, and is hardly relevant to how people decorate for Christmas nowadays compared to the 70s/80s.
Brekkie post_id=52084 time= user_id=976 Wrote:The advent crown was for only the last 4 shows before Christmas anyway, but was basically a tacky and dangerous thing with a bit of tinsel around a coat hanger and naked flames. It's probably one tradition best consigned to history, and is hardly relevant to how people decorate for Christmas nowadays compared to the 70s/80s.

Yeah the advent crown has looked dated for 30 years at least.
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