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New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Newshound47 - 16-09-2021
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rules-to-protect-distinctively-british-public-service-broadcasting
Some interesting proposals here but will be interesting to see what effect it has.
Mentioning the US Open makes me think the protected list might get an update.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Keith - 16-09-2021
Worth noting the entire speech can be read at: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/john-whittingdales-speech-to-the-rts-cambridge-convention-2021
Quickly skimming through it there's quite a few references to Channel 4. On the one hand it seems to suggest a sell off is inevitable, however it could also lay the groundwork for the government to say they're no longer going to sell of C4 but will insist it (and the BBC) produce/show more programmes that are 'distinctively “British”'.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Newshound47 - 16-09-2021
If it’s quotas then no real change but if its all programmes then certain current shows like Mrs Brown Boys or Van De Vark could be at risk of breaching the rules.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - all new Phil - 16-09-2021
Newshound47 post_id=40181 time= user_id=1854 Wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rules-to-protect-distinctively-british-public-service-broadcastingBit of hysteria on Twitter about this but it all seems pretty sensible to me (and pretty much exactly what France already do).
Some interesting proposals here but will be interesting to see what effect it has.
Mentioning the US Open makes me think the protected list might get an update.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Newshound47 - 16-09-2021
all new Phil post_id=40193 time= user_id=865 Wrote:France is more about the revenue of streaming giants. This could in theory if it covers all programmes mean shows currently made with British cast and/or crew or in Britain get axed if they set abroad or are otherwise not British enough. It’s hard to tell.Newshound47 post_id=40181 time= user_id=1854 Wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rules-to-protect-distinctively-british-public-service-broadcastingBit of hysteria on Twitter about this but it all seems pretty sensible to me (and pretty much exactly what France already do).
Some interesting proposals here but will be interesting to see what effect it has.
Mentioning the US Open makes me think the protected list might get an update.
There has been talk in France that some of the streaming giants might well end up withdrawing from the market if it no longer remains financially viable. Netflix and Disney+ Are the most likely I imagine to possibly end up one day doing that as it’s pure streaming for Netflix without other products that the likes of Amazon and Apple have. While Disney+ is never going to create loads of French only content.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Brekkie - 16-09-2021
International co-productions are a reality now and frankly the more International production gets, the more British TV has got IMO. It's influence has been stamped all over the biggest hits of the last decade whether that is on or off screen talent, locations or the stories being told.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - sdaonline - 16-09-2021
all new Phil post_id=40193 time=1631787148 user_id=865 Wrote:Newshound47 post_id=40181 time= user_id=1854 Wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rules-to-protect-distinctively-british-public-service-broadcastingBit of hysteria on Twitter about this but it all seems pretty sensible to me (and pretty much exactly what France already do).
Some interesting proposals here but will be interesting to see what effect it has.
Mentioning the US Open makes me think the protected list might get an update.
Twitter as usual has missed the point
Quote:I’m not talking about waving union flags and a picture of the Queen in every scene.
I’m talking about continuing to make the programmes that are ours, and only ours; that could only have been made in the United Kingdom.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Newshound47 - 16-09-2021
The thing is virtually any programme could be made in the UK. Is Planet Earth really that distinctively British bar the narration?
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Newshound47 - 16-09-2021
Could one of the bigger effects be Neighbours and Home and Away. Neighbours and I think Home and Away are classed as original programmes due to them being co productions. But under this change that would seem that would no longer be the case. That would surely put their future on Channel Five at risk.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - scottishtv - 16-09-2021
Seems like a fairly standard ministerial speech of contradictions.
What does "if it’s set in Britain and made in Britain by our public service broadcasters, then it should be distinctively British" mean? Examples of where PSBs are falling foul of this would be interesting to see.
I am intrigued by "we plan to legislate as soon as possible, and make it a legal requirement that major online platforms must carry PSB content, and that they must ensure that it’s easy to find." What does that mean? Amazon/Netflix operating here should offer iPlayer, ITV Hub and All4 content, or manufacturers of TVs/hardware should support the PSB apps?
On a broader note, saying "we know there's a lot of competition from the streaming giants, so here's some more regulation for you" doesn't make much sense to me. I'm sure the detail will come, but the speech is mostly waffle. I can see why ITV threaten to walk away from public service broadcasting every now and again.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Newshound47 - 16-09-2021
scottishtv post_id=40315 time= user_id=1012 Wrote:Seems like a fairly standard ministerial speech of contradictions.I think it might mean Netflix and co have to add PSB stuff. They could probably do so with a few documentaries and for Amazon sporting rights might get added to the list of things they could use to say they do things of a PSB value.
What does "if it’s set in Britain and made in Britain by our public service broadcasters, then it should be distinctively British" mean? Examples of where PSBs are falling foul of this would be interesting to see.
I am intrigued by "we plan to legislate as soon as possible, and make it a legal requirement that major online platforms must carry PSB content, and that they must ensure that it’s easy to find." What does that mean? Amazon/Netflix operating here should offer iPlayer, ITV Hub and All4 content, or manufacturers of TVs/hardware should support the PSB apps?
On a broader note, saying "we know there's a lot of competition from the streaming giants, so here's some more regulation for you" doesn't make much sense to me. I'm sure the detail will come, but the speech is mostly waffle. I can see why ITV threaten to walk away from public service broadcasting every now and again.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - scottishtv - 16-09-2021
But wasn't Britbox designed to take PSB content out of Netflix/Amazon so the BBC and ITV could take over the direct to consumer relationship and (hopefully) do better out of it financially, or are they talking about current VOD stuff that's on iPlayer/Hub etc. It all gets quite messy quite quickly.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Blobs - 16-09-2021
sdaonline post_id=40291 time= user_id=1185 Wrote:Twitter as usual has missed the point
Quote:I’m not talking about waving union flags and a picture of the Queen in every scene.
I’m talking about continuing to make the programmes that are ours, and only ours; that could only have been made in the United Kingdom.
Yes, "we want you to carry on with what you're doing but blindfolded and with your arms tied behind your back while hanging upside down. You'll flourish"
How much of this already existing "distinctively British public service broadcasting" will be lost once the BBC is downsized and Channel 4's wings have been clipped?. The industry doesn't need "How to be British" Ofcom guidelines to make Derry Girls & Fleabag or Countryfile & Bakeoff. It's the government who are a threat to British public service broadcasting.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - Solari - 16-09-2021
Without wishing to delve into politics...
Canada has had very strict rules on Canadian-made content for many, many years - radio stations are required to play at least 40% Canadian music (so anything written and/or performed by a Canadian, and/or recorded in Canada); TV channels typically have to make sure that at least 55% of what they show (though this figure changes depending on the channel - film channels, for example, can get away with 30%) throughout the year is made in Canada (though I believe repeats of existing programmes can count towards this). While I doubt they will introduce anything that strict here in the UK, it is (I think) interesting to see how similar rules are already implemented elsewhere.
New rules to protect ‘distinctively British’ public service broadcasting’ - scottishtv - 16-09-2021
Solari post_id=40340 time= user_id=1734 Wrote:While I doubt they will introduce anything that strict here in the UK, it is (I think) interesting to see how similar rules are already implemented elsewhere.I guess the reason I posed the question "what programmes are problematic?" earlier is that looking at BBC One, BBC Two and ITV today on a typical weeknight, I can't see a single programme that isn't made in the UK (perhaps one nature documentary aside). On the other channels, Channel 4 does rely quite heavily on the US sitcoms in the mornings and Channel 5 has Neighbours and Home & Away (as has been said) but that's it - and I'm actually quite surprised.
I'm not sure what the problem is - I seem to remember far more imports shown on the PSBs years ago. Maybe it's just formalising keeping the status quo?