sjames post_id=13397 time=1621445237 user_id=1376 Wrote:Nothing new in the schedule this time around from the looks of it. It's a pity BBC Four don't repeat Blue Peter in the same way they do TOTP, with such an archive of material and interesting films, it would be fascinating to see, especially as I've only ever seen from when I started watching it in the 90's.

Neil Jones post_id=13403 time=1621447953 user_id=961 Wrote:Obviously don't think there's a demand for it. Plus IIRC the archive only goes back to the mid 1960s?

Inspector Sands post_id=13473 time=1621489484 user_id=1003 Wrote:

Neil Jones post_id=13403 time=1621447953 user_id=961 Wrote:Obviously don't think there's a demand for it. Plus IIRC the archive only goes back to the mid 1960s?

Only!? :? I'd have thought almost 60 years is plenty to keep them busy


It's an interesting idea but I'm not sure they'd have the same appeal as TOTP

Markymark post_id=13474 time=1621490112 user_id=1078 Wrote:I doubt many of the programmes from the 70s exist. They were live, never repeated (even short term a few days later) events. Although the film inserts are probably still around.

Neil Jones post_id=13480 time=1621493406 user_id=961 Wrote:As alluded to above, Biddy Baxter insisted on it, and I believe most episodes from 1964 onwards exist because of that insistence. Otherwise they'd have either not been recorded in the first place or fell into a wiping machine somewhere down the line. They might only be telerecordings, but something is better than nothing.

Steve in Pudsey post_id=13477 time=1621492855 user_id=942 Wrote:I much prefer the Swapshop tour of TC7. The way the BP one has the presenters explaining everything rather than talking to the vision mixer about their job and asking them to demonstrate seems a bit arrogant to me.

Steve Williams post_id=13485 time=1621497890 user_id=1326 Wrote:As you suggest, it's nice to see these old shows again but the novelty does wear off quite quickly and for most people one or two episodes is more than enough. In some shows just the theme tune is enough. I know Pops is an exception, but that obviously has different things on it every week and it works as a piece of entertainment. Seeing Blue Peter talk about exhibitions you can't visit and competitions you can't enter is going to pall after a bit.

Steve Williams post_id=13485 time=1621497890 user_id=1326 Wrote:

Neil Jones post_id=13480 time=1621493406 user_id=961 Wrote:As alluded to above, Biddy Baxter insisted on it, and I believe most episodes from 1964 onwards exist because of that insistence. Otherwise they'd have either not been recorded in the first place or fell into a wiping machine somewhere down the line. They might only be telerecordings, but something is better than nothing.

Yes, that's right - Richard Marson's Inside The Archive book details all the episodes of Blue Peter that still exist in the archive, which is the vast, vast majority from the mid-sixties. As you say, Biddy insisted they were kept so it's one of the most complete archives of any programme from the sixties and seventies. There are a couple still missing, Christopher Trace's last show is one of them, and there were a couple which fell foul to recording errors, but not many. In fact as Marson writes in his Blue Peter Diaries book, they did a feature in 2004 about restoring an episode from 1980 which only existed on VHS. Marson was fascinated by the whole thing, although he says that after rehearsals, Uncle Matt Baker turned him and said "This is f***ing boring, Rich."

That's also one of the reasons why Newsround is well-represented in the archives from the seventies, compared to other children's programmes, in that they left the tape running after Blue Peter. Although in 1977 it moved from after Blue Peter to before it, so it's less well-represented after that.

As mentioned on its Wiki page, Richard Marson did suggest a while ago on The Mausoleum Club that most of Swap Shop existed in the archives for a while, because the editor Rosemary Gill was previously on Blue Peter and was one of Biddy's proteges, so she also requested it, and they were there until the mid-90s until all the tapes were sold to Australian TV who were still using the format and had run out, and asked the Beeb if they had any they could reuse. However I have seen one episode of Swap Shop from 1980 when a couple of people write in to ask if they can see again something that happened the other week, and Noel says they can't because it wasn't recorded. So I dunno.

Of course UK Gold, as was, did a run of repeats from the mid-seventies in the mid-nineties (of course, the equivalent of repeating shows with Konnie, Simon, Matt and Liz now), I remember someone writing into the Radio Times to say how much they enjoyed them, and especially how much they enjoyed UK Gold's disclaimer that the competitions had now closed.

As you suggest, it's nice to see these old shows again but the novelty does wear off quite quickly and for most people one or two episodes is more than enough. In some shows just the theme tune is enough. I know Pops is an exception, but that obviously has different things on it every week and it works as a piece of entertainment. Seeing Blue Peter talk about exhibitions you can't visit and competitions you can't enter is going to pall after a bit.