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Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Newsdog - 04-04-2021 Bit of a random one but have recently been reading Peter Sissons autobiography and he talks about the day that Margaret Thatcher resigned ( Thursday 22nd November 1990). He mentions while preparing for the 10pm question time that he was told that Panorama which had been added to the schedule that night was struggling to pull a programme together at short notice and instead the question team produced a live 60 minute special on Thatcher from the question set ( which was at the Barbican) before also producing the normal question time that night. I have just seen posted on twitter the Six O’clock news from that night that was hosted by Peter Sissons and Anna Ford. Did Peter Sissons really present the news and two question time’s on the same evening? I know he might have a brought in as one of the main news anchors but if I remember he never did the news on a Thursday normally because of question time. Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Steve in Pudsey - 04-04-2021 I'll assume you know it's Sissons rather than Sessions, and that's just an autocorrect fail ![]() I think this is pretty definitive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0PIUhcrA5c however according to Genome, the Radio Times had Andrew Harvey down to present, but that's been known to be wildly wrong in the past. https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1990-11-22#at-18.00 One additional piece of info is that the Question Time scheduled for 22.30-23.30 was almost certainly moved, as the CiN programme was moved to 23.00 according to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zstbMBohgQM Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Newsdog - 04-04-2021 Does anyone know what programmes went out when that night ? The you tube clip below suggests question time finished at 12:30am that night ?? https://youtu.be/8kMfTF0rI0Y Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - JLav25 - 04-04-2021 He says in his autobiography he did the news on Monday, Tuesday and Friday. Wednesday was for preparing of QT and Thursday was presenting QT. But as Newsdog says, it's likely they wanted their senior presenters in for such a story. Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Matrix - 04-04-2021 Newsdog post_id=2851 time=1617561515 user_id=1461 Wrote:Bit of a random one but have recently been reading Peter Sissons autobiography and he talks about the day that Margaret Thatcher resigned ( Thursday 22nd November 1990). He mentions while preparing for the 10pm question time that he was told that Panorama which had been added to the schedule that night was struggling to pull a programme together at short notice and instead the question team produced a live 60 minute special on Thatcher from the question set ( which was at the Barbican) before also producing the normal question time that night. I wonder if there's two key dates here he's referencing. Thatcher announced the intention to resign on 22 November whereas she didn't leave until the 28 November (back of the car in tears shots). They certainly had a special Question Time (I vaguely remember reference in the Thatcher archives to post resignation intention media coverage) but I wonder if they're actually a week apart Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Inspector Sands - 05-04-2021 I've just looked this up and yes, he did present the Six o clock news and two Question Times - one a half hour and one an hour. It was an extended edition of the Six o Clock News too, 55 minutes with 5 minutes of regional news. Not certain what time the first Question Time was. Peter finishes it saying there's continuing coverage over on Newsnight and that the second edition was on at 11:30. Looking at Genome https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1990-11-22 QT was scheduled at 10:30 as was Newsnight. Newsnight was also extended to an hour... so my guess is that QT part 1 was on at 10:00,then Newsnight at its usual time of 10:30, then QT part 2 at 11:30. Presumably the two programmes displaced by QT that evening were just shown in its original slot. So yes a long evening for Sissons, almost 2 and a half hours of live TV and not finishing till half 12 Incidently there was also a live Kilroy that morning which luckily was going to talk about the troubles in the Conservative Party anyway so had a panel full of Tory MPs. That was delayed and shorter but was used as part of the coverage of the morning Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Steve in Pudsey - 05-04-2021 I have to wonder why they didn't just put out the originally scheduled programme if Panorama wasn't going to make it? It doesn't look like the subject was being neglected for TV coverage that day! Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Inspector Sands - 05-04-2021 Steve in Pudsey post_id=2976 time=1617606395 user_id=942 Wrote:I have to wonder why they didn't just put out the originally scheduled programme if Panorama wasn't going to make it? It doesn't look like the subject was being neglected for TV coverage that day!Presumably because they'd rearranged the schedule early in the day and didn't want to change it all back again at the last minute. Also I imagine that once the News and Current Affairs department got that extra slot they either didn't want to lose it or were obligated to fill it. Also having it at the usual time was a direct clash with Newsnight which isn't ideal on such a big news day Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - James Martin - 05-04-2021 Couple of questions... I seem to recall Channel 4 running slides over The Journey and Just A Minute during their schools presentation, explaining the situation. I've got distinct memories of us watching a programme at school and that happening. Does anyone recall? What did ITV do? Over on Home and Away forum Back To The Bay a few years ago, a couple of users were trying to collate the TX dates of episodes in the UK but there seemed to be no record of whether or not either showing went out on November 22nd. We know they went to ITN at 09:55 but there's not much else of the day on YouTube. (I understand both showings of Neighbours went out on BBC One, bookending rolling news, which as we know displaced CBBC.
Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Rob - 05-04-2021 James Martin post_id=2993 time=1617612364 user_id=872 Wrote: The first ITN newsflash was broadcast during Keynotes: ![]() ![]() Images from "And Here Is The News", the documentary shown as part of ITV's 60th anniversary in 2015. Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Inspector Sands - 05-04-2021 James Martin post_id=2993 time=1617612364 user_id=872 Wrote:Couple of questions...I was in school that day and remember that the class I was doing at the time were unaware of the news, however some others in my form, who were in a different class not only knew but had watched the coverage instead of their geography lesson. If Channel 4 had put up a caption then that might explain how their teacher knew - maybe he saw it on C4 when it was on for schools and then turned over. Although I don't actually remember us ever watching anything live from schools, maybe he was just watching TV before lessons. Seems a bit of an odd thing to do, I imagine there were a few happy teachers that morning Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Inspector Sands - 05-04-2021 I've mentioned about what happened on BBC1 on that morning at the other place. There was a brief newsflash during People Today who then returned for a bit barely mentioning it. That used to be in 2 parts with CBBC and Kilroy between them. They ended their part plugging what was coming up (both CBBC and in their next part) which was then immediately contradicted by Judy Spiers (who did IVC on Daytime UK) who handed over to extended news which I think went on until 1 Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Steve Williams - 05-04-2021 Inspector Sands post_id=2972 time=1617604672 user_id=1003 Wrote:I've just looked this up and yes, he did present the Six o clock news and two Question Times - one a half hour and one an hour. It was an extended edition of the Six o Clock News too, 55 minutes with 5 minutes of regional news. I remember that night that Smith and Jones was on at 10.30, displaced from 9.30, as we were intending to stay up to watch it but my parents had to record it, and the Children in Need doc was at eleven, so the schedule for that night ended up being... 9.00 News 10.00 Question Time Part 1 10.30 Smith and Jones 11.00 Children in Need 11.30 Question Time Part 2 Of course, the Pops on BBC4 last Friday was from that evening, though it went out as usual - unlike the episode from the day Nigel Lawson resigned just over a year before which, as we know, was faded out before the end to squeeze in extra news. Shame they didn't do it with that one, given that bloody awful Bruno and Liz track. That evening illustrates the problems Northern Ireland had with the regional news at 5.35 and Neighbours at 6.30, I dunno when they'd have shown Neighbours. Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - Newsdog - 05-04-2021 So the ‘extra’ question time was actually around the regular time for question time? Peter Sissions says in his book the extra edition was 60 minutes long rather than the 30 minutes quoted above? Also ITN spoiled all the fun I see of guessing what the newsflash might be about with the ‘Newsflash Resignation’ slide with a picture of Thatcher. Thatcher Resigns -BBC News/Question time - VMPhil - 05-04-2021 If Question Time was at the Barbican immediately after the news, then presumably Sissons didn’t present the entire extended Nine? The video in the first post jumps at about 16 minutes so it’s not the whole thing, but I’m assuming it was just Anna Ford for the latter part. Something that you couldn’t do now with all bulletins being single headed. |