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The Sport Thread - Brekkie - 20-10-2021
I'm guessing the new UEFA deal completely prohibits any clash of Europa League games with the Champions League games with games yesterday and today kicking off at 3.30pm, when previously they'd have probably been 5pm kick-offs at the earliest.
The Sport Thread - BcastCornwall - 20-10-2021
Yesterday's match change was at the insistence of the Police - Scottish and UK Government with the original fixture clashing with the Climate Conference. The Home and Away legs of the match were swapped. As a result, Rangers and Celtic were due to play on Thursday, once again intervention was necessary moving the match to Tuesday in the new reserved 1630 CET slot.
Today's match is switched because otherwise there'd be two matches in Moscow on the same day.
The Sport Thread - RhysJR - 20-10-2021
Hands up who had predicted that happening...
https://twitter.com/eredivisiemike/status/1450559660470292485?s=21
Mola TV broadcast Premier League, Bundelsiga, Inernational Football and more in Indonesia FYI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mola_(streaming_service)
https://twitter.com/navigasiteorita/status/1314574123364806663
The Sport Thread - Brekkie - 20-10-2021
The logical winners.
With the split logos arriving on the BBC thought it might be worth giving this ident an outing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8uVEKGMkI
The Sport Thread - thebigdog2020 - 21-10-2021
FA Cup 1st Round TV Coverage
FA Cup first-round televised games
Friday, 5 November
AFC Sudbury v Colchester United
Kick Off: 7.45pm
Live on BBC Two
Saturday, 6 November
Banbury United v Barrow
Kick Off: 5.15pm
Live on ITV4
Sunday, 7 November
Sheffield Wednesday v Plymouth Argyle
Kick Off: 12:15pm
Live on ITV
Stratford Town v Shrewsbury Town
Kick Off: 3:00pm
Live on ITV4
St Albans City v Forest Green Rovers
Kick Off: 5:15pm
Live on BBC Two
Monday, 8 November
Dagenham & Redbridge v Salford City
Kick Off: 7:45pm
Live on ITV4
Wonder where BBC Sport will do the highlights as usually around 6pm on BBC Two for 1st and 2nd rounds
The Sport Thread - Brekkie - 21-10-2021
Is it usually so many for the first couple of rounds - thought it used to be one on BBC1 and two on BT?
The Sport Thread - eyeTV - 21-10-2021
I think it used to be 3 on BT Sport and 1 on BBC.
The Sport Thread - eladkse - 21-10-2021
RhysJR post_id=49348 time= user_id=1340 Wrote:Hands up who had predicted that happening...
https://twitter.com/eredivisiemike/status/1450559660470292485?s=21
Mola TV broadcast Premier League, Bundelsiga, Inernational Football and more in Indonesia FYI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mola_(streaming_service)
https://twitter.com/navigasiteorita/status/1314574123364806663
Their studio coverage is done in London at Gravity Media, so they’ve had some UK operations going for a few years now. But certainly a suprise nonetheless.
Paul Dempsey is their regular presenter and commentator, when he isn’t busy elsewhere.
One of the odder things they have coverage of is an Indonesian youth team Garuda Select that is based here in the UK. Mola follow them around all season with a documentary team, and put on a full 6-camera OB and studio for their matches.
I suppose they could air these youth games in the UK too - would give some nice airtime to the UK teams they play against.
The Sport Thread - RhysJR - 22-10-2021
Not strictly TV related but worth mentioning.
Talksport have won the radio rights for the upcoming Autumn Nations Series for three editions, BBC Radio Cymru will air Wales' games in Welsh.
https://twitter.com/autumnnations/status/1451096340583354368
And in turn the BBC have retained radio rights for the Six Nations through to 2025.
https://twitter.com/SixNationsRugby/status/1451156993314598915
And back To TV
https://twitter.com/mediaguardian/status/1450516483335856132
The Sport Thread - RhysJR - 23-10-2021
Really basic version of the BBC graphics on today's rugby league match coverage. Lower thirds just apperar rather than animate. Some like the name graphics (longer than normal) are different to normal and I think the lower thirds might be using a different font too. I assume this is to do with the match being played in France.
BBC coverage presented from the second virtual studio in Salford, with a panoramic of presumably Perpignan. And for the first time I think, the team logos 'engraved' on the fake pillar behind Mark Chapman. Think commentary was alluded to being offtube too.
The Sport Thread - Prospero&Ariel - 23-10-2021
RhysJR post_id=50125 time= user_id=1340 Wrote:Really basic version of the BBC graphics on today's rugby league match coverage. Lower thirds just apperar rather than animate. Some like the name graphics (longer than normal) are different to normal and I think the lower thirds might be using a different font too. I assume this is to do with the match being played in France.
BBC coverage presented from the second virtual studio in Salford, with a panoramic of presumably Perpignan. And for the first time I think, the team logos 'engraved' on the fake pillar behind Mark Chapman. Think commentary was alluded to being offtube too.
Yes I saw this. They were using the right font, but not using their usual graphics renderer (they were for studio stuff), and I'm fairly sure their usual is VizRT. Reith, and other fonts, can look different when played through a different renderer. The match graphics ran a video clip of the animation for the team sheets, then simply keyed on stills of the other graphics and the text was overlayed...anyone's guess what was used...could have been an Aston! Not sure what the broadcast agreement would have been, previous RL matches from France have taken French graphics, but maybe the BBC paid for their match graphics to come from the provider and that's what they got!
The Sport Thread - RhysJR - 23-10-2021
Despite new graphics used on the FA Cup draw last weekend, the old ITV Sport graphics still in use on England v. Northern Ireland live right now. A BBC production perhaps ??
Prospero&Ariel post_id=50132 time= user_id=2082' Wrote:RhysJR post_id=50125 time= user_id=1340 Wrote:Really basic version of the BBC graphics on today's rugby league match coverage. Lower thirds just apperar rather than animate. Some like the name graphics (longer than normal) are different to normal and I think the lower thirds might be using a different font too. I assume this is to do with the match being played in France.
BBC coverage presented from the second virtual studio in Salford, with a panoramic of presumably Perpignan. And for the first time I think, the team logos 'engraved' on the fake pillar behind Mark Chapman. Think commentary was alluded to being offtube too.
Yes I saw this. They were using the right font, but not using their usual graphics renderer (they were for studio stuff), and I'm fairly sure their usual is VizRT. Reith, and other fonts, can look different when played through a different renderer. The match graphics ran a video clip of the animation for the team sheets, then simply keyed on stills of the other graphics and the text was overlayed...anyone's guess what was used...could have been an Aston! Not sure what the broadcast agreement would have been, previous RL matches from France have taken French graphics, but maybe the BBC paid for their match graphics to come from the provider and that's what they got!
Thanks for the comprehensive analysis!
From a brief look around, I don't think there was any French TV coverage - none was advertised by France on their Twitter or website and beIN Sports' usual lead commentator or beIN Sports themselves hadn't tweeted anything either.
I only caught the tail end of the women's match beforehand and didn't notice if the graphics were the same. I did notice on that match though that the 5th tackle graphic was black text on red and was completely unreadable from my position relative to the screen(!)
The Sport Thread - eladkse - 23-10-2021
Prospero&Ariel post_id=50132 time= user_id=2082' Wrote:RhysJR post_id=50125 time= user_id=1340 Wrote:Really basic version of the BBC graphics on today's rugby league match coverage. Lower thirds just apperar rather than animate. Some like the name graphics (longer than normal) are different to normal and I think the lower thirds might be using a different font too. I assume this is to do with the match being played in France.
BBC coverage presented from the second virtual studio in Salford, with a panoramic of presumably Perpignan. And for the first time I think, the team logos 'engraved' on the fake pillar behind Mark Chapman. Think commentary was alluded to being offtube too.
Yes I saw this. They were using the right font, but not using their usual graphics renderer (they were for studio stuff), and I'm fairly sure their usual is VizRT. Reith, and other fonts, can look different when played through a different renderer. The match graphics ran a video clip of the animation for the team sheets, then simply keyed on stills of the other graphics and the text was overlayed...anyone's guess what was used...could have been an Aston! Not sure what the broadcast agreement would have been, previous RL matches from France have taken French graphics, but maybe the BBC paid for their match graphics to come from the provider and that's what they got!
The match graphics are clearly being added on-site rather than from Salford, as they keyed on/off with the replay wipe, so that would make sense.
Obviously you can't just put one broadcaster's package and another broadcaster's control system together and hope it works. Even if you both used the same renderer, the two systems still need to be made to work together (allowing one operator to control both outputs). Usually that's easier to modify the host graphics to look like the guest package, rather than trying to adapt a guest's package to work with the host control system.
So most likely the French host has crudely adapted their local graphics to look like the Beeb's. Animation aside, I doubt most would have noticed.
RhysJR post_id=50133 time= user_id=1340 Wrote:Thanks for the comprehensive analysis!
From a brief look around, I don't think there was any French TV coverage - none was advertised by France on their Twitter or website and beIN Sports' usual lead commentator or beIN Sports themselves hadn't tweeted anything either.
French broadcaster was l'Équipe I believe.... which judging by these football graphics would make sense why the rugby was so basic.
https://twitter.com/lachainelequipe/status/1448361807387758599
The Sport Thread - eladkse - 23-10-2021
RhysJR post_id=50133 time= user_id=1340 Wrote:Despite new graphics used on the FA Cup draw last weekend, the old ITV Sport graphics still in use on England v. Northern Ireland live right now. A BBC production perhaps ??
ITV's graphics have been consistently inconsistent for decades!
Most likely the new green ones are only meant for the FA Cup.
The Sport Thread - Prospero&Ariel - 23-10-2021
eladkse post_id=50135 time= user_id=908 Wrote:RhysJR post_id=50133 time= user_id=1340 Wrote:Despite new graphics used on the FA Cup draw last weekend, the old ITV Sport graphics still in use on England v. Northern Ireland live right now. A BBC production perhaps ??
ITV's graphics have been consistently inconsistent for decades!
Most likely the new green ones are only meant for the FA Cup.
Yes quite obviously from every event they do, ITV Sport have a different brand. What the ITV Sport housestyle is, I don't know...they did have one for a time (from 2006), and it was still being used on some darts until quite recently, but I don't think they have one now.
I think most agree the 'England' package (needs/wants) a refresh! I'm not a huge fan of whoever they have to design their packages - they have a basic quality to them, especially the horse racing, and that glint that goes across the 'England' package lower thirds...hmmn.