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RE: YouTube Gold - Inspector Sands - 28-05-2022
(28-05-2022, 02:59 PM)Neil Jones Wrote:That's unlikely as it was a pre-recorded programme and had a definite end of the copyright caption. As is noted in the comments it was something that was done occasionally,a notable example was TVS's epilogue programme Company which not only did it at the end but the beginning too(28-05-2022, 02:26 PM)soupie Wrote: I don’t think the back announcement would be done that differently today in that circumstance- except they’d probably show a still of the person. The weirder detail (for me) is that super-abrupt mid-sentence fading out of the discussion, though this was common back then. I’ve seen a black and white Fred Dinenage-fronted schools programme from the 60s somewhere on the web where this also happens
I suspect its more that the programme overran than anything else and whoever was presenting didn't realise they were on the way out (or couldn't hear the gallery).
https://youtu.be/YNLylAUZegI
(28-05-2022, 02:26 PM)soupie Wrote: I don’t think the back announcement would be done that differently today in that circumstance- except they’d probably show a still of the person.My thinking was more that if that happened today the programme would probably just get pulled completely. If not the death would have been mentioned at the start, not the end, which it doesn't sound like it was here
RE: YouTube Gold - soupie - 28-05-2022
(28-05-2022, 03:37 PM)Inspector Sands Wrote:Yes it probably would go at the start now. I’m reminded of when we watched an episode of Watch at school in the late 80s, and the back announcement told us the child who had featured heavily in that programme had- to the best of my memory- recently been killed in a road accident. Completely tragic of course, but extremely chilling for us as 6 and 7 year olds to have to hear that.(28-05-2022, 02:59 PM)Neil Jones Wrote: I suspect its more that the programme overran than anything else and whoever was presenting didn't realise they were on the way out (or couldn't hear the gallery).That's unlikely as it was a pre-recorded programme and had a definite end of the copyright caption. As is noted in the comments it was something that was done occasionally,a notable example was TVS's epilogue programme Company which not only did it at the end but the beginning too
https://youtu.be/YNLylAUZegI
(28-05-2022, 02:26 PM)soupie Wrote: I don’t think the back announcement would be done that differently today in that circumstance- except they’d probably show a still of the person.My thinking was more that if that happened today the programme would probably just get pulled completely. If not the death would have been mentioned at the start, not the end, which it doesn't sound like it was here
RE: YouTube Gold - Mateus Honrado - 29-05-2022
While I was watching Top Gun: Maverick at the cinema a few hours ago, a new Nike advert was shown featuring Spike Lee to mark the company's 50th anniversary.
https://youtu.be/K0EfCKHpe0Q
And here's the extended cut.
https://youtu.be/rD-XFcmvGuc
News Engineer - News Engineer - 29-05-2022
(28-05-2022, 02:59 PM)Neil Jones Wrote: This "happened" to David Frost on TV-am in 1988, completely ignoring the count out, though this wasn't the first time and it probably wasn't the last:Although there is this famous incident where he still manages to hit the count to the break (last 40 seconds of the clip).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL7-doD3UTg
https://youtu.be/Tt_2wD4TvxA
RE: YouTube Gold - ToasterMan - 31-05-2022
Some Sky One links in and out of The Simpsons have been uploaded in commemoration of the channel's 40th anniversary, it amazes me how they'd already finishing airing Season 4 by the summer of 1993.
https://youtu.be/8ccg1ZQ_T7Y
https://youtu.be/h4hwfubQRJw
https://youtu.be/OdM0I_lw5ss
Meanwhile, the rest of the country would have to wait five years until BBC Two being airing it on terrestrial TV and Fox began the 4 episode VHS compilations!
RE: YouTube Gold - nwtv2003 - 10-06-2022
About an hour and a half of TV-am from March 1983 with Angela Rippon and Anna Ford. The adverts are omitted for some reason but the presentation such as the slides and Weather captions are quite advanced by 1983 standards. One would guess these were ditched shortly after when they started cutting costs left, right and centre.
https://youtu.be/_MA4lBHG5tg
RE: YouTube Gold - Neil Jones - 10-06-2022
Was always very strange that they used a digital clock for all the news segments from the newsroom, but an analogue clock on the rest of the output (I presume it was because of the captions on the news segments). While they did manage to integrate the news captions with the clock they never managed to do it for the main output so you always had this strange situation (as you can see at just before 49 minutes in the video) where the clock would be on top of the caption.
And of course by the time they lost their franchise in 1991 the clock was almost an afterthought with regards to other graphics, quite often being in the way of captions, graphs, two way labels...
RE: YouTube Gold - ToasterMan - 10-06-2022
I didn't know there were early variants of the Sky idents after they merged with BSB, they don't have the drop shadow underneath the ident windows and appear closer up.
https://youtu.be/HBgrWiVXd5A
RE: YouTube Gold - Colm - 10-06-2022
(10-06-2022, 07:50 AM)nwtv2003 Wrote: ...the presentation such as the slides and Weather captions are quite advanced by 1983 standards. One would guess these were ditched shortly after when they started cutting costs left, right and centre.
https://youtu.be/_MA4lBHG5tg
Those particular graphics are generated on one of the first Quantel Paintbox systems.
The BBC obtained the use of one around the same time; 'Breakfast Time' being one of the first programmes benefiting from its availability, and Channel 4's presentation department began rolling out Paintbox creations during the summer of 1984; holding slides produced on the Paintbox started appearing at Christmastime that year.
The Weather Channel in America claim to be the first broadcaster in the world to acquire a Paintbox - and the launch video, as viewable on YT, has on-screen evidence of its use.
The 'Astons' appear to be sourced from, indeed, an Aston 3 character generator; again, adopted early by the BBC, while Thames acquired their own in 1981, with other ITV companies picking theirs up as the 1980s progressed.
The sport caption looks like a physical slide with Aston-generated text super'd; a format which TV-am used in tandem with the electronic methods at their disposal for a few more years.
Despite the precarious financial situation at Camden Lock in 1983, they didn't give up completely on their high-spec graphics hardware.
Close observation of other YT uploads of that period of TV-am shows regular Paintbox/Aston use on children's output; but its prominence on news graphics seems to get cut back on in favour of physical slides - c.f. John Stapleton on the 'phone from Brighton...
Weather presentation quickly switched to the rotating device - in place by the time Wincey Willis joined towards the end of 1983.
RE: YouTube Gold - Inspector Sands - 11-06-2022
(10-06-2022, 09:06 AM)Neil Jones Wrote: Was always very strange that they used a digital clock for all the news segments from the newsroom, but an analogue clock on the rest of the output (I presume it was because of the captions on the news segments). While they did manage to integrate the news captions with the clock they never managed to do it for the main output so you always had this strange situation (as you can see at just before 49 minutes in the video) where the clock would be on top of the caption.
And of course by the time they lost their franchise in 1991 the clock was almost an afterthought with regards to other graphics, quite often being in the way of captions, graphs, two way labels...
I'm pretty sure the clock itself was a bit of an afterthought when they launched. There was a documentary a few years ago about the rivalry between Breakfast Time and TVam that suggested that TVam hadn't thought of having one until Breakfast Time's first morning when Frank Bough revealed theirs. It was a totally new idea to British TV of course, I don't know if the programmes elsewhere such as the US they were modelled on had one.
Amazing now how innovative it seemed when the Channel 4 Daily started and, gosh, that had a digital clock!
RE: YouTube Gold - Steve in Pudsey - 13-06-2022
One of those nuggets of how not to do regional continuity, this time a Friday night BBC Two opt in the South West
https://youtu.be/aWPHI1OONbI
Would it really have been that much hassle to knock up a slide to preview next week's programme over rather than having to use the TWO symbol? Or for the regional announcer to have introduced Gardeners World to avoid the awkward transition from regional to network symbol? (Even if you overlook the finger trouble)
RE: YouTube Gold - Benriggers - 14-06-2022
Interesting little find from the Kaleidoscope team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3Peg_yfB0
RE: YouTube Gold - Neil Jones - 18-06-2022
Prince Philip wanders around Lenton Lane after officially opening it in March 1984:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZF3n89kFSQ
RE: YouTube Gold - Steve Williams - 19-06-2022
(18-06-2022, 10:47 PM)Neil Jones Wrote: Prince Philip wanders around Lenton Lane after officially opening it in March 1984:
This was a famous visit, because it was the same week as the first episode of Spitting Image, and right at the last minute Central got them to remove all the royal sketches from the first episode to avoid embarrassment at the opening. And indeed Philip started his speech by saying "This is me, not a puppet!".
RE: YouTube Gold - Inspector Sands - 21-06-2022
Offair recording of BBC1 continuity into The Royal Family from 1969
https://youtu.be/Bzj29x-0OtI