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Ukraine Crisis - bakamann - 28-02-2022
Worzel post_id=70679 time= user_id=1259 Wrote:World titles used for the simulcast with the BBC News channel from studio E this morning:
https://youtu.be/1rtMtLNlbKs
I guess BBC News used the BBCWN titles because of the PBS simulcast, since the American broadcaster need to pinpoint where to cut the feed to insert the donors?
Ukraine Crisis - Newshound47 - 28-02-2022
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1498334866743640074
Sounds like the Government might not be in favour of banning RT due to effect it would have on the BBC and other British media.
Ukraine Crisis - Chud - 28-02-2022
BBC News channel taking world news. Would be nice to see the news channel presenter next to Matthew right now. Will we ever see double headed presenting ever again?
Ukraine Crisis - CameronYoung - 28-02-2022
Newshound47 post_id=70728 time= user_id=1854 Wrote:https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1498334866743640074Despite that, that may end up getting done anyway:
Sounds like the Government might not be in favour of banning RT due to effect it would have on the BBC and other British media.
https://twitter.com/Ofcom/status/1498344534845149185
Apparently it all relates to just 14 hours on Sunday.
Ukraine Crisis - MrUdagawa - 28-02-2022
DavidWhitfield post_id=70668 time= user_id=1016 Wrote:Mark Austin is proving to be worth his weight in gold to Sky at the moment. He's putting in some hours on location in Kyiv - I've been keeping abreast of the coverage over the past few days and he seems to have been on air on an afternoon for his 'usual slot' at 5pm, still there at midnight (Ukraine time) for the NaT slot, and I've just turned on at 7:30am today and he's on air again now. I know it's not as if he could be doing much with his downtime given the circumstances, but one wonders when he gets chance to switch off. Can't help but admire the work ethic, bravery, and stamina shown by him and his counterparts at other stations, especially given the volatile and unpredictable nature of the environment they're working (and, let's not forget, living) in.
Absolutely. I know from experience that producing live programmes from pretty much anywhere in the field, even London, can be pretty miserable and exhausting (despite how good the location may look), so doing it in a warzone must be quite the challenge.
Ukraine Crisis - TMD_24 - 28-02-2022
Anderson Cooper is now out in Lviv, he's presenting Newsroom from there at the moment with Victor And Alisyn in New York.
Ukraine Crisis - bfgarmy - 28-02-2022
Have to say what I've seen of the TV coverage of the Ukraine crisis has been of excellent standard but honestly articles like this on the BBC website honestly do it no favours:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60551140
Surprised to see it coming from Steve Rosenberg who's been a correspondent for so long. At very best it's an article asking a question that can't really be properly answered and is full of speculation and hearsay and low on facts. If you want to look at it more critically it's the sort of thing that belongs more in a low-brow tabloid and frankly could lead to even greater anxiety for people than they already have. It partly angered me and partly frightened me reading it
I know it's not Rosenberg himself who says this but it is his choice to put in another analyst who says 'another option for him is to explode a nuclear weapon somewhere in the North Sea between Britain and Denmark and see what happens'.
Of course that's not totally impossible but it's a particularly extreme suggestion even from where we currently are. To go from 'I got it wrong about him invading Crimea' to 'he'll explode a nuclear weapon near Brtain to see what happens' with little to no support/reasoning is careless in the extreme.
Who knows maybe Rosenberg and his expert are spot on and it goes without saying that I pray they're not but if you are going to throw out suggestions like this then bring and show your workings rather than just blindly throw them it out. I'm no expert but I imagine firing nuclear weapons involves slightly more thought than 'we'll fire one to see what happens'. And as I say even though it's from the expert not Rosenberg himself surely he chooses the expert referred to in the aritcle.
Ukraine Crisis - all new Phil - 28-02-2022
It seems a pretty well-rounded assessment if you ask me. That you were angered and frightened by it is down to the unpredictability of the man himself rather than this article, I’m not sure it’s in anyones interest for them to play things down.
Ukraine Crisis - Brekkie - 28-02-2022
Tend to agree that the website let's the BBC down sometimes and doesn't reflect the quality of the TV coverage- not so much in content but in how that content is presented and curated.
Everytime you check it's the live blog, one or two new articles and then the same few articles - framed similar to your example - rather than focusing on new reports and developments. The live blogs not having quick links to key developments in the way others like The Guardian do makes it a trickier catch up too, especially as we're talking 20+ pages of posts a day.
Ukraine Crisis - Joe - 28-02-2022
It also happens to be a question people are asking, or indeed trying not to think about.
Ukraine Crisis - trance - 28-02-2022
bfgarmy post_id=70769 time= user_id=977 Wrote:... honestly articles like this on the BBC website honestly do it no favours...
I'm not sure what this has to do with presentation, but it's a legitimate question given the context of Putin's announcements. Unfortunately given the context there aren't many hard facts that can be produced. The analysis seems fair.
Ukraine Crisis - bfgarmy - 28-02-2022
I guess my argument is you have to tread carefully when talking about such extreme topics - discussing nuclear bombs being used I can understand to an extent but you have to handle it carefully and reasonably. Most seemed to take his threat as saber rattling rather than as an inevitability - as shown by the fact it didn't totally dominate the news yesterday. Going 'he might just do a nuclear bomb into the sea near Denmark and the UK' out of nowhere with next to no reasoning or support isn't good journalism. Why would he particularly target those two nations over say Ukraine? Wouldn't he attempt most other alternatives like cyber attacks, shutting off gas first? Frankly if possible nuclear ammageddom for observering countries is the likely outcome here I'd have thought that would surely be what most outlets would be leading on.
Much like with a US debt ceiling crisis a journalist could go 'there's the possibility it'll lead to a third of the population becoming jobless, civil rebellion, money becoming worthless etc'. It could lead to that but a big part of the news is to state the facts and provide context rather than to speculate and to its credit most BBC coverage has been really strong.
It probably doesn't help that I suffer from anxiety so have tried to limit the amount of coverage I consume of the Ukraine story so articles like that really don't help those of us who can panic at the best of times.
Ukraine Crisis - scottishtv - 28-02-2022
The Press Gazette has published an interesting round-up of all the main broadcast and print personnel that are covering the story from Ukraine:
https://pressgazette.co.uk/uk-outlets-commit-dozens-of-staff-to-covering-invasion-of-ukraine/
Ukraine Crisis - bkman1990 - 01-03-2022
I wonder how the presence of RT being stuck for much longer on their own TV service will sit with them while the evolving situation in Ukraine will continue for a long time to come. For people who have FTA Satellite at home; could they do voluntary gestures like manually deleting RT in SD & HD off their EPG's if they don't want to watch or listen to the Kremlin's propaganda on own their TV screens.
UPDATE:
I believe the current status of RT is now in further trouble when broadcasting in the EU on Satellite. SES, who provide the uplinks for the channel to be broadcast on Satellite EPG's in Europe, are based in Luxembourg which is an EU member state.
The likelihood of RT being abruptly taken off satellite TV in Europe including Sky & Freesat in the UK and Ireland will become inevitable once Ofcom concludes it's investigation into the output of the channel.
The slot being left behind by RT also cannot be sold off from them to satellite TV operators in Europe either because of the recent official sanctions being put in place by the EU over the weekend.
Ukraine Crisis - Richjj1978 - 01-03-2022
Has RT been removed from Sky's EPG in the Republic of Ireland yet?
However, I can't imagine RT remaining on air much longer. Surely, they are not going to be able to easily find the cash to pay the uplink providers if Russian banks are embargoed.