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The Sport Thread - Rdd - 30-05-2021

valley post_id=15579 time=1622392282 user_id=971 Wrote:
JT95 post_id=15574 time=1622390625 user_id=1386 Wrote:Interesting to see Sky are only showing a basic “sky sports LIVE” DOG without the channel name (SS Premier League) on their coverage of Malta v Northern Ireland, any reason why? Is this to not disturb the ‘Premier League’ brand?
Correct, as I understand it the licensing agreement to call the channel Sky Sports Premier League states that whilst it can be used for coverage of other football matches, no Premier League branding can be used.

Interesting that the same doesn’t seem to apply to their other brand licensed channels, with Sky Sports F1 currently showing Indycar with its normal DOG, F1 logo and all, and last year we got college football not just with the NFL DOG but the NFL titles/bumper to boot!


The Sport Thread - bkman1990 - 30-05-2021

For one thing Re: The UEFA Champions League Final. I am very glad to have it back with a clear picture on RTÉ2 in HD in Ireland from next season. VM Two's picture on Saorview was abysmal when the final was shown last night. The replay screen wipes on VM Two SD looked bloody awful. It was actually pathetically comical the way in how their coverage final was presented when compared of the all the other matches they had from this season just gone. Virgin would upgrade the source material to VM Two HD for all platforms but they have it in SD on Saorview except for the final which was broadcast in SD the whole way through. At least RTÉ2 will have a guaranteed HD picture to be used for every match including the final & for their highlights shows while they have an enhanced package given to them by UEFA from next year.


The Sport Thread - Jon - 30-05-2021

Hatton Cross post_id=15545 time=1622366599 user_id=1471 Wrote:I have to say, the VAR Bunker..sorry, IMG Studios fly thru was the better one of the two. Different levels of the building, trees (the natural emeny of drone shots) 360degree pivots, and narrower doorways.
Agreed, it worked so much better. The main issue with the BT one is there wasn’t much to see, apart from the studio. I think the IMG flowed much better and they told story in a way that worked better.


The Sport Thread - Brekkie - 31-05-2021

The BBC's coverage of Copa America now in doubt with the tournament losing both it's hosts in the matter of just over a week. Columbia was dropped last week due to civil unrest and now Argentina is out due to covid issues.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57304063


The Sport Thread - thebigdog2020 - 31-05-2021

Brekkie post_id=15696 time=1622470469 user_id=976 Wrote:The BBC's coverage of Copa America now in doubt with the tournament losing both it's hosts in the matter of just over a week. Columbia was dropped last week due to civil unrest and now Argentina is out due to covid issues.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57304063

Story has updated now and will be held solely in Brazil with only 13 days notice

https://twitter.com/CONMEBOL/status/1399366306944651264

See more at:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57304063


The Sport Thread - Michael - 31-05-2021

JT95 post_id=15574 time=1622390625 user_id=1386 Wrote:Interesting to see Sky are only showing a basic “sky sports LIVE” DOG without the channel name (SS Premier League) on their coverage of Malta v Northern Ireland, any reason why? Is this to not disturb the ‘Premier League’ brand?

Euro u21 game between Italy and Portugal has the Premier League branding in the DOG. At least for the anthems anyway.


The Sport Thread - Markymark - 31-05-2021

Brekkie post_id=15504 time=1622322522 user_id=976 Wrote:The Champions League Final has an opening ceremony?

Yes. Quite elabotate too. I was involved in the technical side of the one in Berlin in 2015. Five days of rehearsals, 200 German teenagers, Italian production staff (who couldn't speak German), and a British director. What a laugh, but at kick off on the Saturday I disappeared off to a bar


The Sport Thread - SuperSajuuk - 31-05-2021

Naomi Osaka has decided to withdraw from the French Open after all the controversy over her decision not to do press interviews: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/57310701

Not sure how I feel about this.... imo, I think she was being selfish to refuse to do media stuff at all. Any sportsperson realises that being in any sport has certain obligations automatically placed upon you, and everyone who plays sport at the professional level has to do media briefings with the press. Not everyone around the world has the ability to watch TV or listen to a radio and so the media briefings are the only way to report on sports stories in those places via newspapers.

I am not in any way trying to trivialise mental health concerns, but if she had reservations about it, she should have withdrawn from the outset so that others could get a chance at glory. As it stands, the player she beat in the first round has been denied the possibility of playing in the second round of a Grand Slam, which is not very fair to up and coming talent in the sport.

For those who don't remember, Anthony Hamilton -- in snooker -- got blasted by a lot of people for qualifying for the 2020 World Snooker Championship and then withdrawing before the main event because of "coronavirus concerns due to a crowd being present". Players knew beforehand that crowds would be present, so he should have withdrawn before doing qualifiers at all so that other players had an opportunity to qualify for the tournament. I think the same logic should apply to Osaka as well: should've withdrawn before the tournament started and then others get an opportunity they might get once in their life.


The Sport Thread - Markymark - 31-05-2021

SuperSajuuk post_id=15738 time=1622488417 user_id=1205 Wrote:Naomi Osaka has decided to withdraw from the French Open after all the controversy over her decision not to do press interviews: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/57310701

Not sure how I feel about this.... imo, I think she was being selfish to refuse to do media stuff at all.

Depends I suppose what's written in the agreement she signed to take part in the tournament.

In absolute terms (contracts apart) no one in the world is legally obliged to talk to the media


The Sport Thread - Michael - 31-05-2021

SuperSajuuk post_id=15738 time=1622488417 user_id=1205 Wrote:imo, I think she was being selfish to refuse to do media stuff at all. Any sportsperson realises that being in any sport has certain obligations automatically placed upon you, and everyone who plays sport at the professional level has to do media briefings with the press. Not everyone around the world has the ability to watch TV or listen to a radio and so the media briefings are the only way to report on sports stories in those places via newspapers.

I am not in any way trying to trivialise mental health concerns, but if she had reservations about it, she should have withdrawn from the outset so that others could get a chance at glory. As it stands, the player she beat in the first round has been denied the possibility of playing in the second round of a Grand Slam, which is not very fair to up and coming talent in the sport.

Yeah you're wrong. She's there to play tennis, and f all else. If the media, who are largely superfluous nowadays in the age of Twitter and Instagram. want quotes to fill their pathetic websites and papers, they can just rip them direct from the player's SM profiles, as they usually do.

Major fail on the part of the tennis establishment, although completely unsurprising.


The Sport Thread - SuperSajuuk - 31-05-2021

Markymark post_id=15742 time=1622490103 user_id=1078 Wrote:Depends I suppose what's written in the agreement she signed to take part in the tournament.

In absolute terms (contracts apart) no one in the world is legally obliged to talk to the media
Most players likely sign contracts that obligates them to talk to the media, otherwise the WTA wouldn't be able to fine a player for not doing so. You're right that no one is legally obliged to do so, but if they sign a contract saying they have to talk to the media after matches, then they have to do so or risk fines or expulsion, as what happened here.

Michael post_id=15743 time=1622490128 user_id=898 Wrote:Yeah you're wrong. She's there to play tennis, and f all else. If the media, who are largely superfluous nowadays in the age of Twitter and Instagram. want quotes to fill their pathetic websites and papers, they can just rip them direct from the player's SM profiles, as they usually do.

Major fail on the part of the tennis establishment, although completely unsurprising.
I mean, her contract most likely also says that she has to talk to the media. All other players are able to do so and its part of the job of being a sportsperson, all sports are exactly the same. If players were "only there to play tennis and nothing else", all other players -- including those on the mens circuit -- would never do media duties either and that would just set a trend for other sports to follow suit, which isn't going to happen because players have obligations as sportsmen. We've seen people in other sports do similar (ignore their media commitments) and get fined because its in breach of their contract terms by being a professional player.

The Women's Tennis Association wouldn't threaten a player with expulsion from a tournament if it wasn't in the players' contract to do media duties. Ultimately, its up to players to encourage the association to change the rules / contracts around media obligations and until that time comes, all players should do their media commitments after matches. Every player is able to do it, Osaka is no different.


The Sport Thread - Michael - 31-05-2021

The media are redundant, unneeded and should just stay home at the other end of a Zoom screen for all the use and relevance they have.

Anyway, Piers Morgan and Andrew Castle will go to bed tonight happy, safe and satisfied in the knowledge that they have contributed to the shunning and shaming of a young vulnerable woman of colour.


The Sport Thread - Brekkie - 31-05-2021

She should just take the approach Kai Havertz did with BT (strong language).
https://youtu.be/m8InxwH-tMw

Sadly giving an honest answer to stupid questions often gets sports people in trouble. Two sides to this argument though - completely get where Naomi is coming from but when you're getting paid potentially hundreds of thousands for two weeks work there are some things you suck up. Most of us end up in meetings we don't want to be, especially when things haven't gone well.


The Sport Thread - Michael - 31-05-2021

Des Kelly totally deserved that.


The Sport Thread - RR - 31-05-2021

Michael post_id=15749 time=1622490716 user_id=898 Wrote:The media are redundant, unneeded and should just stay home at the other end of a Zoom screen for all the use and relevance they have.
The amount of money in professional sport at the higher end is almost entirely down to TV coverage, and in the medium term the overall media coverage is an if not the most important input into that. For an individual sport such as tennis that does need cooperation from all of the players, unlike team sports, where not all players need to talk.

On the other hand, there should be at least certain medical exemptions from some of the obligations.