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Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - TVFan - 18-04-2021

Cassia Tuna post_id=7652 time=1618746308 user_id=1506 Wrote:Prince Philip's funeral: 13.6 million watch ceremony in UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56792086

That must be a higher viewing figure than the funerals for Diana/Queen Mother, unless I’m mistaken.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - Strange - 18-04-2021

TVFan post_id=7676 time=1618750233 user_id=868 Wrote:
Cassia Tuna post_id=7652 time=1618746308 user_id=1506 Wrote:Prince Philip's funeral: 13.6 million watch ceremony in UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56792086

That must be a higher viewing figure than the funerals for Diana/Queen Mother, unless I’m mistaken.

Higher than Queen Mother Funeral which had a peak audience of 10.4m (that was on a Tuesday). Diana Funeral was watched by 31m; 19.3 on BBC, 11.7m ITV.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - aaron_scotland - 18-04-2021

Nice behind the scenes photo here: https://twitter.com/JamieLinks/status/1383711897099276295/photo/2

So the broadcasters were provided:

Chapel Mix
Procession Mix
Home Park Mix

and presumably beauty ISOs:

Round Tower
Chapel Interior
Chapel Exterior


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - Brekkie - 18-04-2021

I think what is noteable yesterday is the gap between the BBC and the rest. ITV had been narrowing it a bit lately but I think having Huw rather than Dimbleby lead such events makes them much more accessible.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - MrUdagawa - 18-04-2021

I must say I prefer Dimbelby for these occasions still. I find Huw's questioning of guests a little excessively mannered but I know it's personal taste.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - Scarbados - 18-04-2021

MailOnline claiming the BBC had 11.4million viewers at its peak, whilst ITV had just 1.2million


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - commseng - 18-04-2021

MrUdagawa post_id=7604 time=1618734201 user_id=1184 Wrote:It may have been mentioned elsewhere but did anyone else hear the quite audible whispering of what I assume to be Huw when the band started playing? One minor glitch in what was superb coverage.

Re. The question about window or TV screen, I too am also surprised when people assume a real backdrop is more complex than a screen, however as someone who works in the industry I am still often perplexed as to the insistence on always having studio teams on site rather than back in the studio. Especially in the current Covid world with all the logistical challenges described.

I know them 'being there' adds a certain something but I'm not sure we'd lose a great deal if they weren't.
I think that in this case when you want to speak to the people who are part of the event itself you do have to be where they are.
It's very different to grab someone for a quick interview on site compared to doing it elsewhere, or down the line.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - Markymark - 18-04-2021

Brekkie post_id=7684 time=1618751823 user_id=976 Wrote:I think what is noteable yesterday is the gap between the BBC and the rest. ITV had been narrowing it a bit lately but I think having Huw rather than Dimbleby lead such events makes them much more accessible.

I wonder if it's a weekday/weekend thing too ?

ITV, as you say have narrowed the gap on the BBC in recent years on 'one off major events', but perhaps during the week (where they have had recent success) they've benefited from their larger regular daytime audience ?

Different viewing dynamics at the weekend ?


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - JAS84 - 18-04-2021

Strange post_id=7622 time=1618739358 user_id=1130 Wrote:Viewing Figures;


https://twitter.com/lizo_mzimba/status/1383717905028640778?s=20
Scarbados post_id=7702 time=1618756108 user_id=824 Wrote:MailOnline claiming the BBC had 11.4million viewers at its peak, whilst ITV had just 1.2million
So the Mail is crediting 800,000 viewers to the wrong channel?


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - rkolsen - 18-04-2021

Roger Darthwell post_id=7440 time=1618677277 user_id=1160 Wrote:
London Lite post_id=7418 time=1618672954 user_id=953 Wrote:TF1 scheduled a trashy doc about Meghan and Harry after the funeral finished.
That is utterly disrespectful

Then you must be offended by the royal blue outfits worn by Savannah, Hoda and Wilfred Frost on NBC. Wink
Brekkie post_id=7499 time=1618690148 user_id=976 Wrote:
mark post_id=7478 time=1618685945 user_id=1102 Wrote:BBC, ITV and Sky have all done a good job today but, for me, ITV has been the best of the bunch in every aspect of presentation. I was really impressed with their coverage.

Meanwhile, here's how things looked on the main US networks...

https://twitter.com/NBCNewsPR/status/1383414579024171015?s=20
https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1383415286246739976?s=20
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1383413800355844096?s=20
looks like they did a better job than the cable networks. From the caps posted tge heavily channel branded desks on CNN and MSNBC didn't seem appropriate.

To be fair to msnbc Today did steal their desk for coverage. The desk in 1A has normally is in 3A.

I don’t know why msnbc didn’t use the normal news desk that Lester Holt sits at.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - Newsroom - 18-04-2021

100% not a fan of Rob’s decisions to split these threads. Absolutely ridiculous! What if someone wants to post in a thread that’s locked? I’m one of those people.

[mention]Rob[/mention] Give us some time; let’s not tar each other with that of TVF. Basically- give us a break! Three threads for Prince Philip is way too much. I know from PM’s I’m not alone - you should never have done that.

[mod]User has been warned for this post - your final sentence is out of order, and that aggresive tone will NOT be tolerated here.[/mod]


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - AlfieMulcahy - 18-04-2021

Newsroom post_id=7748 time=1618770525 user_id=1342 Wrote:100% not a fan of Rob’s decisions to split these threads. Absolutely ridiculous! What if someone wants to post in a thread that’s locked? I’m one of those people.

[mention]Rob[/mention] Give us some time; let’s not tar each other with that of TVF. Basically- give us a break! Three threads for Prince Philip is way too much. I know from PM’s I’m not alone - you should never have done that.

I think it was a good decision.

Death, Build-up and Funeral are three pretty distinct things. Having them flow into one another would be confusing and would mean that pointless speculation and insulting remarks about who got what wrong don't really need to continue for days on end.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - UTVLifer - 18-04-2021

AlfieMulcahy post_id=7755 time=1618773683 user_id=1048 Wrote:
Newsroom post_id=7748 time=1618770525 user_id=1342 Wrote:100% not a fan of Rob’s decisions to split these threads. Absolutely ridiculous! What if someone wants to post in a thread that’s locked? I’m one of those people.

[mention]Rob[/mention] Give us some time; let’s not tar each other with that of TVF. Basically- give us a break! Three threads for Prince Philip is way too much. I know from PM’s I’m not alone - you should never have done that.

I think it was a good decision.

Death, Build-up and Funeral are three pretty distinct things. Having them flow into one another would be confusing and would mean that pointless speculation and insulting remarks about who got what wrong don't really need to continue for days on end.
I'm alright with the decision, but I would suggest that now the funeral is over and the dust from Prince Philip's death is now settling, that maybe (if Rob doesn't want to keep this thread going) there should be a, for lack of better phrase, Post-mortum thread where we can reflect all on the broadcaster's coverage over the last 8 days.

And ahead of what I suspect will be a rather busy edition of Newswatch next Friday as they respond to some of the complaints regarding the death coverage


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - Brekkie - 18-04-2021

Rude Newsroom - rude. In your own words give [mention]Rob[/mention] a break - how he has structured the threads has been very sensible and is not unlike how Asa handled major events. Conversation has flowed naturally from one to the other too, and sometimes the conversation does need to be forcibly moved on. The original thread ended in a cycle of people basically repeating the same thing. Three threads on the topic isn't excessive at all, and the funeral was a very different event to the breaking news.


Also, and I'm guilty of it with this post, we shouldn't get bogged down with posts about what we should post, especially in the thread itself. Rob has provided a feedback thread for such things. Indeed your post has done has probably ensured this thread gets locked too - although to be honest that would probably be appropriate now anyway. I do agree with UTV Lifer a new thread to reflect on the coverage as a whole and what broadcasters should have learned from it for similar situations moving forward may now be appropriate.


Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh - Frances - 18-04-2021

rkolsen post_id=7743 time=1618769041 user_id=1202 Wrote:
Roger Darthwell post_id=7440 time=1618677277 user_id=1160 Wrote:
London Lite post_id=7418 time=1618672954 user_id=953 Wrote:TF1 scheduled a trashy doc about Meghan and Harry after the funeral finished.
That is utterly disrespectful

Then you must be offended by the royal blue outfits worn by Savannah, Hoda and Wilfred Frost on NBC. Wink
Brekkie post_id=7499 time=1618690148 user_id=976 Wrote:
mark post_id=7478 time=1618685945 user_id=1102 Wrote:BBC, ITV and Sky have all done a good job today but, for me, ITV has been the best of the bunch in every aspect of presentation. I was really impressed with their coverage.

Meanwhile, here's how things looked on the main US networks...

https://twitter.com/NBCNewsPR/status/1383414579024171015?s=20
https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1383415286246739976?s=20
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1383413800355844096?s=20
looks like they did a better job than the cable networks. From the caps posted tge heavily channel branded desks on CNN and MSNBC didn't seem appropriate.

To be fair to msnbc Today did steal their desk for coverage. The desk in 1A has normally is in 3A.

I don’t know why msnbc didn’t use the normal news desk that Lester Holt sits at.
The desk in 3C (for those who don’t know, Nightly News studio) has a NBC News logo so MSNBC doesn’t want to use it I guess. They removed all NBC News logos recent months.