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Prince Philip has Died - Dan95 - 11-04-2021

joshuanesbit post_id=5973 time=1618178650 user_id=1556 Wrote:
Dan95 post_id=5968 time=1618178163 user_id=1557 Wrote:Hi folks,

I’ve just joined the forum but have been following this thread since the news broke on Friday.

The reason I wanted to jump in on this thread is there’s been a lot of debate over how much notice newsrooms had of the impending breaking news.



I had the job of breaking the news on social media for a national newspaper. We had been given an off record steer from the Palace earlier in the morning that Philip was expected to pass ‘soon’, possibly over the weekend and we were advised to be on standby to break the news when we were given the word. There had naturally been a major step up in preparations during his hospital stay and these went into overdrive after it became clear the news was to break sooner rather than later on Friday morning.

Even with that, I don’t think any of us expected it to happen on Friday but instead on Saturday so when we found out at 11:59 that the announcement was to be made immediately it still came as a bit of a surprise and I even had to double take before posting the news as I was following BBC One and expected them to have already have started their news report. Instead, it turned out I broke the news only a minute after Martine Croxall had made the initial News Channel announcement at 12:04.

If we were made aware that the news was to come soon, at least within the next couple of days, I would imagine other outlets would also have been fed the same information without explicitly being told when it was to be announced, hence why there was such a sudden reaction to the news when the statement was released.

fascinating, thank you! was your source the PA as well? so when you said 11.59, was that the snap that everyone received?

I was passed the info by a senior member of staff so I’m not clear as to where it originated from, sorry! If I’m speculating, I would suspect it was one of the journalists who had contacts within the Palace who received it but I absolutely can’t be sure.

I don’t think it was the snap at 11:59, it’s likely it came from the same source who passed on the initial steer about 90 minutes before. It really does seem like everybody was caught on the hoof!


Prince Philip has Died - joshuanesbit - 11-04-2021

Dan95 post_id=5976 time=1618178971 user_id=1557 Wrote:
joshuanesbit post_id=5973 time=1618178650 user_id=1556 Wrote:
Dan95 post_id=5968 time=1618178163 user_id=1557 Wrote:Hi folks,

I’ve just joined the forum but have been following this thread since the news broke on Friday.


The reason I wanted to jump in on this thread is there’s been a lot of debate over how much notice newsrooms had of the impending breaking news.



I had the job of breaking the news on social media for a national newspaper. We had been given an off record steer from the Palace earlier in the morning that Philip was expected to pass ‘soon’, possibly over the weekend and we were advised to be on standby to break the news when we were given the word. There had naturally been a major step up in preparations during his hospital stay and these went into overdrive after it became clear the news was to break sooner rather than later on Friday morning.

Even with that, I don’t think any of us expected it to happen on Friday but instead on Saturday so when we found out at 11:59 that the announcement was to be made immediately it still came as a bit of a surprise and I even had to double take before posting the news as I was following BBC One and expected them to have already have started their news report. Instead, it turned out I broke the news only a minute after Martine Croxall had made the initial News Channel announcement at 12:04.

If we were made aware that the news was to come soon, at least within the next couple of days, I would imagine other outlets would also have been fed the same information without explicitly being told when it was to be announced, hence why there was such a sudden reaction to the news when the statement was released.

fascinating, thank you! was your source the PA as well? so when you said 11.59, was that the snap that everyone received?

I was passed the info by a senior member of staff so I’m not clear as to where it originated from, sorry! If I’m speculating, I would suspect it was one of the journalists who had contacts within the Palace who received it but I absolutely can’t be sure.

I don’t think it was the snap at 11:59, it’s likely it came from the same source who passed on the initial steer about 90 minutes before. It really does seem like everybody was caught on the hoof!


I managed to speak to matt Frei at Canada gate and he said everyone knew at same time (ie 1201) and not before, well he's not going to reveal his leads Wink


Prince Philip has Died - RunVT - 11-04-2021

Ultimately why wouldn’t the Palace break the news itself on its own channels, now that it has the capacity to do so. From the action in the BBC newsroom at midday and how long it took to report the news, it very much feels like the BBC was not prebriefed on the news. Perhaps the relationship with the Palace is very strained after that Newsnight interview?


Prince Philip has Died - joshuanesbit - 11-04-2021

RunVT post_id=5979 time=1618180078 user_id=1551 Wrote:Ultimately why wouldn’t the Palace break the news itself on its own channels, now that it has the capacity to do so. From the action in the BBC newsroom at midday and how long it took to report the news, it very much feels like the BBC was not prebriefed on the news. Perhaps the relationship with the Palace is very strained after that Newsnight interview?

I mean we're talking only 3 minutes for The BBC to go from receiving AP snap and then double check with Palace to actually announcing it... is that a long time would you say?


Prince Philip has Died - joshuanesbit - 11-04-2021

aaron_scotland post_id=5754 time=1618144347 user_id=735 Wrote:Do we know which OB company is doing the service yet? Id suspect NEP for the OB and maybe uplinks, much like the wedding?

I've seen Focus being in and out of Windsor yesterday and today doing the rigging.

would you be able to tell me what that small square with a wire running down is on the light stand on the right https://twitter.com/rosannapw/status/1380811141820125186/photo/1

it's not a radio receiver or something similar? also is the pack that is attached to the fence preamp for the lav mic?


Prince Philip has Died - MrUdagawa - 11-04-2021

joshuanesbit post_id=5985 time=1618181152 user_id=1556 Wrote:
aaron_scotland post_id=5754 time=1618144347 user_id=735 Wrote:Do we know which OB company is doing the service yet? Id suspect NEP for the OB and maybe uplinks, much like the wedding?

I've seen Focus being in and out of Windsor yesterday and today doing the rigging.

would you be able to tell me what that small square with a wire running down is on the light stand on the right https://twitter.com/rosannapw/status/1380811141820125186/photo/1

it's not a radio receiver or something similar? also is the pack that is attached to the fence preamp for the lav mic?

The box on the fence is an ifb box for a guest earpiece to be plugged into, with volume control. Guessing any in person guests would be stood there to adhere to social distancing.


Prince Philip has Died - aaron_scotland - 12-04-2021

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Im surprised Sky have the funeral coverage 'beginning' at 2pm on the adverts. The coffin begins to move to the Chapel at 2:40 according to the schedule so to only have 40 mins of pre-coverage is a surprise, I'd have expected it to begin much earlier like 12 or 1.

Also I overheard from a friend who works at Sky, the previous planning had Sky paying to cover the precession OB into Windsor but due to Covid, as this isn't occurring, they aren't doing that so now need to pay BBC Events to use the funeral coverage rather than supplement it and get it for free.


Prince Philip has Died - rkolsen - 12-04-2021

valley post_id=5940 time=1618175566 user_id=971 Wrote:Buckingham Palace is a good point. Reporters are always hanging around Westminster and Downing Street, or based at Millbank but it's a 5 minute car ride. I suspect reporters are very used to getting to the Palaces and Downing Street/Westminster at very short notice.
joshuanesbit post_id=5935 time=1618175352 user_id=1556 Wrote:I've just joined the forum, but have a few questions if anyone could help!

Firstly, I struggle to believe that all the broadcasters only knew about the news only after 12:01 on 9/4 due to the fact that a mere 15 mins after story broke, on sky news they already cut to a live shot outside the palace. this was the same with ITN as well. As well as this, how would Lucrezia be all dressed in black and ready to go in the studio mere minutes after the story broke? Unless it was just a coincidence she was in the studio anyway?
From what I understand there are permanent inject points for the broadcasters where they can just plug their cameras HD-SDI output in and go at strategic locations.


Prince Philip has Died - Strange - 12-04-2021

I’m guessing ITV will also be covering the funeral?


Prince Philip has Died - aaron_scotland - 12-04-2021

rkolsen post_id=5993 time=1618187221 user_id=1202 Wrote:
valley post_id=5940 time=1618175566 user_id=971 Wrote:Buckingham Palace is a good point. Reporters are always hanging around Westminster and Downing Street, or based at Millbank but it's a 5 minute car ride. I suspect reporters are very used to getting to the Palaces and Downing Street/Westminster at very short notice.
joshuanesbit post_id=5935 time=1618175352 user_id=1556 Wrote:I've just joined the forum, but have a few questions if anyone could help!

Firstly, I struggle to believe that all the broadcasters only knew about the news only after 12:01 on 9/4 due to the fact that a mere 15 mins after story broke, on sky news they already cut to a live shot outside the palace. this was the same with ITN as well. As well as this, how would Lucrezia be all dressed in black and ready to go in the studio mere minutes after the story broke? Unless it was just a coincidence she was in the studio anyway?
From what I understand there are permanent inject points for the broadcasters where they can just plug their cameras HD-SDI output in and go at strategic locations.

Yup Sky deffo have connections at Canada Gate, so will the BBC. It's more than likely the first live shots of Buckingham palace were via LiveU via Reuters or another newswire though.


Prince Philip has Died - James Martin - 12-04-2021

Strange post_id=5994 time=1618187454 user_id=1130 Wrote:I’m guessing ITV will also be covering the funeral?

Without a doubt but the pictures from the service itself wil, I assume, be host broadcasted by the BBC.


Prince Philip has Died - RDJ - 12-04-2021

Sombre playlist has come to an end at 4am on Radio 2 with Vanessa Feltz playing Kylie Minogue - Can’t get you out of my head. Radio 1 has also reverted away from its chilled playlist at 4am.


Prince Philip has Died - Rob - 12-04-2021

Now seems a better time than ever to close this thread. Please continue any discussions in the Funeral build-up thread.