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MrBiggieSMLZ post_id=2423 time=1617438575 user_id=1110 Wrote:

mdta post_id=2320 time=1617395090 user_id=1187 Wrote:Its not that the BBC Logo in Reith can't look good - but that the way it is with BBC Select and BBC Kids looks really bad.

Here is an example I did

That looks pretty good. BTW, so is BBC Kids supposed to be a rebrand of BBC Kids? If it is, that may interfere with the also kid-friendly CBBC a little bit.

It's the name of an online channel they run for children in Australia.

Controversial opinion. I quite like this “new” logo. That said, if I was updating it myself, I’d put the letters in italics. Don’t @ me.

all new Phil post_id=2467 time=1617450935 user_id=865 Wrote:Controversial opinion. I quite like this “new” logo. That said, if I was updating it myself, I’d put the letters in italics. Don’t @ me.

Quite like what mdta has done there with the logos, that looks very good :-)

mdta post_id=2320 time=1617395090 user_id=1187 Wrote:.

Here is an example I did

I might ruffle a few feathers, however I actually wouldn't mind the 2nd BBC logo in Reith, it'll be like an evolution of the masterbrand.

dbl post_id=2757 time=1617531952 user_id=966 Wrote:

mdta post_id=2320 time=1617395090 user_id=1187 Wrote:.

Here is an example I did

I might ruffle a few feathers, however I actually wouldn't mind the 2nd BBC logo in Reith, it'll be like an evolution of the masterbrand.

I think it looks okay. The trouble with making a relatively subtle change like that though, is a lot of uninitiated people wouldn’t notice the difference, and the old version would continue to get used all over the place.

Look how often the previous BBC One and Two logos cropped up for years after they last changed. I’m sure there was a national newspaper still using the Gill BBC One logo in its TV listings until recently.

Spencer post_id=2801 time=1617541978 user_id=891 Wrote:I think it looks okay. The trouble with making a relatively subtle change like that though, is a lot of uninitiated people wouldn’t notice the difference, and the old version would continue to get used all over the place.

Look how often the previous BBC One and Two logos cropped up for years after they last changed. I’m sure there was a national newspaper still using the Gill BBC One logo in its TV listings until recently.

Also a subtle change to the master logo, regardless of whether it is an improvement or not, is definitely not going to be justifiable on cost grounds for an organisation such as the BBC - especially in its current financial position. If I was a BBC employee who'd just been sacked due to budget cuts, I'd be pretty ****ed off if I saw that same organisation spend hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of pounds replacing its logo with a slightly different, but worse, version of the same logo.

Spencer post_id=2801 time=1617541978 user_id=891 Wrote:

dbl post_id=2757 time=1617531952 user_id=966 Wrote:

mdta post_id=2320 time=1617395090 user_id=1187 Wrote:.

Here is an example I did

I might ruffle a few feathers, however I actually wouldn't mind the 2nd BBC logo in Reith, it'll be like an evolution of the masterbrand.

I think it looks okay. The trouble with making a relatively subtle change like that though, is a lot of uninitiated people wouldn’t notice the difference, and the old version would continue to get used all over the place.

Look how often the previous BBC One and Two logos cropped up for years after they last changed. I’m sure there was a national newspaper still using the Gill BBC One logo in its TV listings until recently.

Could not agree more. It's difficult enough in the (increasingly) complex web of post-production to get things tied up, so the idea of throwing in a *NEW_Master_BBC_Do_Not_Use_Old_File_14* type idea just proves to be a difficult concept.

Quite aside from anything else, I appreciate that Reith is shiny and lovely (genuinely) but I come back to the old adage about the logo: if it ain't broke, don't fix it...

I find Reith Sans a bit gross to be honest, while I love the serif version, the sans font has always felt really really dated from the get go. I feel like if they’re going to do a main logo change, go all out with it and bring something new and modern (and yet importantly timeless) to the table. This is just hypothetically wasting money for a minor change that doesn’t make it look any more fresh or aesthetically pleasing and it’s just going to get lost with the old logo.

I don't think the cbeebies logo isn't gonna have a change.

I do feel like Reith would work better in italics and slanted boxes, because it just looks weird in the current logo

swaggyboi128 post_id=8122 time=1618932747 user_id=1485 Wrote:I do feel like Reith would work better in italics and slanted boxes, because it just looks weird in the current logo

Well...

Spencer post_id=2801 time=1617541978 user_id=891 Wrote:

dbl post_id=2757 time=1617531952 user_id=966 Wrote:

mdta post_id=2320 time=1617395090 user_id=1187 Wrote:.

Here is an example I did

I might ruffle a few feathers, however I actually wouldn't mind the 2nd BBC logo in Reith, it'll be like an evolution of the masterbrand.

I think it looks okay. The trouble with making a relatively subtle change like that though, is a lot of uninitiated people wouldn’t notice the difference, and the old version would continue to get used all over the place.

Look how often the previous BBC One and Two logos cropped up for years after they last changed. I’m sure there was a national newspaper still using the Gill BBC One logo in its TV listings until recently.

The Sun uses the correct BBC One logo, but uses the purple BBC Two one that was out of date 15 years ago! At Christmas, they had a special previews pullout, and that used a logo with two in lower case - which turned out to be a mock from TV Forum.

swaggyboi128 post_id=8122 time=1618932747 user_id=1485 Wrote:The Sun uses the correct BBC One logo, but uses the purple BBC Two one that was out of date 15 years ago! At Christmas, they had a special previews pullout, and that used a logo with two in lower case - which turned out to be a mock from TV Forum.

Remember the whole reason why the slant was ditched was legibility, especially when being reduced in size and dealing with digital formats

dbl post_id=8262 time=1618962764 user_id=966 Wrote:

swaggyboi128 post_id=8122 time=1618932747 user_id=1485 Wrote:The Sun uses the correct BBC One logo, but uses the purple BBC Two one that was out of date 15 years ago! At Christmas, they had a special previews pullout, and that used a logo with two in lower case - which turned out to be a mock from TV Forum.

Remember the whole reason why the slant was ditched was legibility, especially when being reduced in size and dealing with digital formats

a) Yeah, I know that, I'm just stating what I feel is better aesthetically.
b) Uhhhhh.... that's the wrong quote...