cityprod post_id=61963 time= user_id=1257 Wrote:Am I the only one bothered by the fact that they're calling her the CEO of BBC News? It sounds like they're preparing to spin off BBC News into its own separate company.
The current title is
Director of News and Current Affairs. Her ITN title is
CEO. It's quite common in "C-suite" lateral moves for appointees to be given the same title so that it's not seen as a demotion. I wouldn't read into it too much.
I think it is quite a clever move - makes her unequivocally the head of BBC News, rather than the person on the board of directors with the responsibility for news. Although in practice it's the same role and although I assume she will sit on a board it is a title which suggests a bit of independence from those running the BBC, which I think is what BBC News needs.
mokked post_id=61972 time= user_id=979 Wrote:BBC News is a PSB thing in UK but commercial operation outside our borders covering the globe. She will now run everything from BBC World News right through to North West Tonight and Reporting Scotland
Except of course that NWT and Rep Scotland are technically part of BBC Nations rather than BBC News (even if branded as such).
CEO doesn’t sound right in terms of the UK BBC News operation. First time she has to raise her head above the pulpit to address an issue in the media, I bet it will be pointed out. Makes it sound too business like and commercial for the licence fee side of the BBC
C4, OFCOM, the NHS, HMRC and several councils all have CEOs so it's not that unusual at all in publicly funded or owned organisations.
Brekkie post_id=62010 time= user_id=976 Wrote:C4, OFCOM, the NHS, HMRC and several councils all have CEOs so it's not that unusual at all in publicly funded or owned organisations.
Even the Civil Service has had one until recently (the role title has changed to be COO - Chief Operating Officer).
C-level executives are not unusual in the public sector - the BBC already has a COO and a CCO (Chief Customer Officer).
natashajacobs post_id=61988 time= user_id=2122 Wrote:Except of course that NWT and Rep Scotland are technically part of BBC Nations rather than BBC News (even if branded as such).
Ah yes, that well known nation of North West England.
BBC Scotland is part of the nations, NWT is part of BBC English Regions/England but there is closer alignment with NCA these days.
I’m slightly surprised her appointment has been so warmly received on here - she was Head of News at ITV during that mid Noughties period where it really was tripe, full of tabloid type stories and language and a waste of very good newcasters. By all accounts she wasn’t great at NBC.
bfgarmy post_id=62081 time= user_id=977 Wrote:I’m slightly surprised her appointment has been so warmly received on here - she was Head of News at ITV during that mid Noughties period where it really was tripe, full of tabloid type stories and language and a waste of very good newcasters.
No, but that was driven by what ITV as a client wanted for its news ? During that period was she an ITV or ITN employee ?
I do think she seems quite overrated. The debacle at NBC where she refused to fire Brian Williams, and other general issues there during her disappointing stint ; the appalling RI:SE; the lacklustre Euronews; and the aborted NBC/Sky channel sounds like it would have been a bit of a snoozeathon by majoring on climate news.
ITN is in quite a tricky place regarding the future of C4 (and what it would mean for C4 News) and she’s effectively abandoned them after less than a year to climb the greasy pole.
soupie post_id=62123 time= user_id=1542 Wrote:I do think she seems quite overrated. The debacle at NBC where she refused to fire Brian Williams, and other general issues there during her disappointing stint ; the appalling RI:SE; the lacklustre Euronews; and the aborted NBC/Sky channel sounds like it would have been a bit of a snoozeathon by majoring on climate news.
ITN is in quite a tricky place regarding the future of C4 (and what it would mean for C4 News) and she’s effectively abandoned them after less than a year to climb the greasy pole.
That is rather unfair considering how much convincing she reportedly took to leave her post, and it seems she may be with ITN for the short term anyway. Do you have an issue with Jon Snow and Ben de Pear leaving C4 News whilst it's future is up for debate too?
Also somewhat unfair to criticise her for axing a channel which you then say sounds liked it would be a snoozefest anyway - that's just picking fault for picking fault. As for RI:SE - any exec is going to have had failures along the way, and the fact you're going back 20 odd years to find one suggests she's not done to badly since.
Nobody is saying she is perfect, but she's one of the few, if not the only, experience news executives with name recognition with a strong background in both UK and international broadcast news, rather than bought in from the press with little to no experience of broadcast news. Importantly too she comes in without people having perceptions of her political leanings, something crucial for BBC News in these current times.
Markymark post_id=62084 time= user_id=1078 Wrote:bfgarmy post_id=62081 time= user_id=977 Wrote:I’m slightly surprised her appointment has been so warmly received on here - she was Head of News at ITV during that mid Noughties period where it really was tripe, full of tabloid type stories and language and a waste of very good newcasters.
No, but that was driven by what ITV as a client wanted for its news ? During that period was she an ITV or ITN employee ?
Deborah Turness was the Editor of ITV News between 2005 and 2013, so would, I'm sure, have had a huge say in the content and branding of ITV News during that time. It so happens that period was also my least favourite era. The 2006 relaunch with the tabloid agenda/style and the 2009 relaunch with 'hero panels' in the titles were particularly low points in the history of ITV News. It has slowly regained its reputation for solid journalism since 2013 in my humble opinion.
She was also heavily involved in the launch of 5 News in 1997 and, I have heard it said, was responsible for pioneering the standing up/perching on desks presentation style that was, for me at least, another low point of the noughties.
It will be interesting to see what direction BBC News takes in the coming years. I'm not quite sure what to expect really.
So she was responsible for the biggest shift in news presentation in decades in launching 5 News. The return of News at Ten fell under her watch and whilst the car park of news era divides people I think it was the ITV News team at it's strongest with Alastair and Mary on the Evening News and Mark and Julie on the News at Ten. And like it or not you can't deny ITV News had a presentational style during that time which really stood out - I always thought it was very retro ITN myself.
Obviously the upcoming BBC News studio refit is before her watch but it's ridiculous that for a decade it's been thought acceptable for their flagship news programmes to use a badly framed shot of three screens with thick borders between them. Looked awful in 2013, still looks awful now.
itsrobert post_id=63044 time= user_id=913 Wrote:She was also heavily involved in the launch of 5 News in 1997 and, I have heard it said, was responsible for pioneering the standing up/perching on desks presentation style that was, for me at least, another low point of the noughties.
The original 5 News was ground breaking and received widespread acclaim, and whether it was to your taste or not, it certainly delivered on the brief to be a distinctive news service.
With regards to ITV News, I'm not sure how much input she would have had on branding as editor. I've always been under the impression that ITV have a lot more influence in the branding of ITV News than ITN have.